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Watching a "US-less" NATO in Libya... May 11, 2011 5:05 am mcfly

…is kinda like watching Tinkerbell take on a dragon. The apparently inevitable result is roasted fairy.

Europe used to throw itself into world affairs with great relish. Too much so, in fact. Perhaps they’re hobbled by their own collective memories. Normally I’d be fine with that, except in this case they’re supposed to be trying to help some rather desperate people, and just can’t seem to steel themselves for the task. It’s something of a blow for anyone hoping to see non-American democracies take the bull by the horns.

Am I alone on this one?

  • You can't expect a committee to run a campaign, especially if you don't have much at stake in the outcome. ... by ER 2011-05-11 09:22:13
    • They do have a stake in the outcome. A big one. They've just been under the U.S. military umbrella so ... by TB 2011-05-11 11:26:26
      • I thought about that too. Having had enough of war is no sin, I'm sure. But so much talk came out ... by mcfly 2011-05-11 11:22:59
        • TB (above) is right, on both counts. The Euros need Libyan oil more than we do, and they are ... by ER 2011-05-11 13:34:41
          • "The Cold War is over, and if they want a NATO with us in it, they are going to have ... by TB 2011-05-11 14:00:47
        • It's the end result of the welfare system. For decades the Europeans have been under the American defense umbrella. ... by Lee 2011-05-11 10:35:57

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