Maher and friends on socialism « The HabitableZone

Maher and friends on socialism May 22, 2011 1:46 pm TB

Posted without comment for now.

Unfortunately, I can’t get at a transcript or anything useful on Maher’s site. Maybe it will come up later, so I’ll leave a link.

Ahhh...the World according to Maher. I dunno if I even want to address this teaching moment. by Jody 2011-05-22 17:05:28
- You can see that it didn't work very well as a teaching moment. I throw this stuff up now ... by TB 2011-05-22 19:52:13
  - You'd do far better to try to learn something than teach, which, IMO is an arrogant attitude. The only ... by Eri 2011-05-23 05:36:30
    - Believe me, I'm learning something. by TB 2011-05-23 07:27:36
  - Its funny how these things seem to work out. You invade these countries, for their own good, and they ... by ER 2011-05-23 05:06:28
  - "...throw this stuff up now and then..." Hey, the fingers down your throat are your own. by mcfly 2011-05-23 01:36:54
    - Behind Blue Eyes--The Who No one knows what it's like To be the bad man To be the sad man Behind blue eyes No one ... by ER 2011-05-23 05:15:47
- I have no idea what that article was trying to communicate, or why TB posted it. Probably the usual ... by ER 2011-05-22 18:08:43
  - Apparently mediocrity is what you base your observations on. by Jody 2011-05-23 06:11:20
    - Say what? by ER 2011-05-23 06:33:47
      - Bottom line...Socialism, however you define it, is mediocrity. by Jody 2011-05-23 08:11:43
        
        That's such an odd thing to say. Is the Canadian healthcare system, which provides high quality care to everyone who ... by mcfly 2011-05-23 09:01:27
        
        That is awesome for Canada. I certainly don't wish it away. I don't live in Canada. by Jody 2011-05-23 09:46:57
        
        Well, my point was that perhaps equating Socialism with mediocrity isn't fair. Clearly, it can be a workable way to ... by mcfly 2011-05-23 10:33:58
        
        The Canadian health care system compares more accurately to Medicaid than it does to Medicare. It's run mostly at ... by TB 2011-05-23 10:01:47
        
        I'm not sure why you bring up legal immigrants, such as myself. Are we a drain on the system? Are ... by mcfly 2011-05-23 10:44:26
        
        Nothing at all against immigrants, particularly the legal ones. Just pulling one demographic out to point out how large ... by TB 2011-05-23 11:12:11
        
        A detailed, thoughtful response. Quite your norm. Thanks. by mcfly 2011-05-23 12:15:47
        
        "The problems and cost issues are not at the same scale between the U.S. and Canada. As just one example, ... by Jody 2011-05-23 10:12:23
        
        Yeah, I know. Someone explains that to me 5 or 6 times a day, every day, day in and ... by ER 2011-05-23 08:20:38
        
        Not scolding, not lecturing,not preaching, or patronizing, or insulting. I like my reality better. You like yours better. It is what ... by Jody 2011-05-23 08:37:45
  - Again, destruction of a concept is helpful in avoiding discussion of it. You can have one country be more ... by TB 2011-05-22 20:22:30
  - Well put, ER. Did you read the comments on that one? Conservative lockstep holds that they pray to the only ... by mcfly 2011-05-22 18:23:52
    - Well put, yourself, McFly. Still, we should be charitable with our conservative friends. It is not merely a question of differences ... by ER 2011-05-22 18:56:03
      - Thanks for that. I have to agree, sadly. Contrary to TB's post below, it hasn't been a matter of stifling ... by mcfly 2011-05-23 01:25:15
        
        John Galt never existed. They had to make him up. Yeah, "saviors". TB is so hung up with all ... by ER 2011-05-23 04:50:04
        
        After all this time, you honestly think my opposition to statism is because I just want the people I approve ... by TB 2011-05-23 09:04:30
        
        TB, what is pissing us off is not that you're opposed to statism, but that you assume we're all in ... by ER 2011-05-23 09:35:59
        
        Seriously, I'm honestly confused. What characterizes "not being in favor of statism" nowadays? Where is the bar? ... by TB 2011-05-23 09:56:51
        
        "I have been unable to come up with any examples of government overreach into our lives that have not been ... by mcfly 2011-05-23 10:47:23
        
        I wish to God all the statist agendas I worry about were flopping and gasping on the beach like abortion ... by TB 2011-05-23 11:49:52
        
        Like all real political questions in a democracy, it is negotiable and to be settled by debate and compromise.(Or postponed ... by ER 2011-05-23 10:33:51
        
        There are some issues that cannot be decided by majority rule. That are right and wrong no matter how ... by TB 2011-05-23 11:59:12
        
        My God, Tom. You're spouting nonsense, now. Sure, slavery is an obvious evil, to us, today. But to half ... by ER 2011-05-23 13:38:12
        
        The right to life and the right to property are intimately connected. A "free" man who is prevented from ... by TB 2011-05-23 15:17:30
        
        More delusional non-sequiturs. "The right to property is the right to life." What utter hogwash. And then you ... by ER 2011-05-23 17:20:35
        
        Wait a minute. Is it just things like land ownership that bug you? If you owned, say, a ... by TB 2011-05-23 18:04:06
        
        There was no Cato Institution in Rome. I was making a play on words on Cato, a Roman statesman ... by ER 2011-05-23 19:35:05
        
        Friend, you have completely swallowed the hook. I don't know where to go from here. I'm curious as to how ... by TB 2011-05-23 17:39:54
        
        I'm perfectly happy with the way society is organized. I adapt to the way things are; the rules currently in ... by ER 2011-05-23 19:56:47
        
        I don't have any pension waiting for me. I chose to work in startups, and for myself. The ... by TB 2011-05-23 20:29:55
        
        I know where you're coming from, I could read between the lines and I knew perfectly well what your situation ... by ER 2011-05-23 21:16:24
        
        Ironically, my portfolio is doing all right. I didn't panic during the crash, sat tight, and rode it all ... by TB 2011-05-24 07:51:15
        
        PS Like all over-, and under reaching, someone, somewhere is going to be in favor of something, and someone somewhere is ... by ER 2011-05-23 10:54:57
      - "Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded - here and ... by TB 2011-05-22 19:53:15
I'll comment. Maybe I'm supposed to slither away, cowering in shame and fear, after watching that short video, (admittedly, ... by ER 2011-05-22 14:13:34

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