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		<title>By: Eri</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/10/michelle-bachmann-graduate-of-palin-u/#comment-3856</link>
		<dc:creator>Eri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote we reinstate slavery.  We&#039;ll hold sales all over the United States.  Anyone who wants to own a Conservative can buy one at a &quot;Buy Yourself a Conservative&quot; sale. How much you think we should charge for them?  I got dibs on Palin.  She oughta fetcha Right nice price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote we reinstate slavery.  We&#8217;ll hold sales all over the United States.  Anyone who wants to own a Conservative can buy one at a &#8220;Buy Yourself a Conservative&#8221; sale. How much you think we should charge for them?  I got dibs on Palin.  She oughta fetcha Right nice price.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/10/michelle-bachmann-graduate-of-palin-u/#comment-3815</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know.  I&#039;m in an aggravating mood today.  Sometimes I just like to push buttons.  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know.  I&#8217;m in an aggravating mood today.  Sometimes I just like to push buttons.  =)</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/10/michelle-bachmann-graduate-of-palin-u/#comment-3813</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe me, I had to read it slowly too.  Like I said, amazing what they expected the voters to follow back then.  I wonder how long the whole speech took.

He&#039;s saying, basically, that the founders were against slavery, and did what they could to suppress it short of sabotaging the entire founding process.  Nobody knows how things might have gone, but the alternative might have been two countries.  Which is what we fought a Civil War to prevent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe me, I had to read it slowly too.  Like I said, amazing what they expected the voters to follow back then.  I wonder how long the whole speech took.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s saying, basically, that the founders were against slavery, and did what they could to suppress it short of sabotaging the entire founding process.  Nobody knows how things might have gone, but the alternative might have been two countries.  Which is what we fought a Civil War to prevent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/10/michelle-bachmann-graduate-of-palin-u/#comment-3811</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom...please help me. I am not the brightest bulb in the box....what is being *said* here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom&#8230;please help me. I am not the brightest bulb in the box&#8230;.what is being *said* here?</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/10/michelle-bachmann-graduate-of-palin-u/#comment-3804</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 02:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not helping, Lee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not helping, Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/10/michelle-bachmann-graduate-of-palin-u/#comment-3796</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was he really?  Seems like most of the demographic stats have proven him right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was he really?  Seems like most of the demographic stats have proven him right.</p>
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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 02:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Land of the Free, Home of the Slave. Even today, apparently, some Americans just can&#039;t come to terms with their own past.

&lt;em&gt;Between 1792, when Whitney invented the cotton gin, and 1794, the price of slaves doubled. By 1825, field hands, who had brought $500 apiece in 1794, were worth $1,500. As the price of slaves grew, so, too, did their numbers. During the first decade of the nineteenth century, the number of slaves in the United States rose by 33 percent; during the following decade, the slave population grew another 29 percent.&lt;/em&gt;

Yep, those founding fathers sure knew how to throw a party. Lincoln was serving up pablum because yer not supposed to dis the fathers, not if you want a future in American politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Land of the Free, Home of the Slave. Even today, apparently, some Americans just can&#8217;t come to terms with their own past.</p>
<p><em>Between 1792, when Whitney invented the cotton gin, and 1794, the price of slaves doubled. By 1825, field hands, who had brought $500 apiece in 1794, were worth $1,500. As the price of slaves grew, so, too, did their numbers. During the first decade of the nineteenth century, the number of slaves in the United States rose by 33 percent; during the following decade, the slave population grew another 29 percent.</em></p>
<p>Yep, those founding fathers sure knew how to throw a party. Lincoln was serving up pablum because yer not supposed to dis the fathers, not if you want a future in American politics.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/10/michelle-bachmann-graduate-of-palin-u/#comment-3747</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 01:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I particularly object to the NEW position which the avowed principle of this Nebraska law gives to slavery in the body politic. I object to it because it assumes that there CAN be MORAL RIGHT in the enslaving of one man by another. I object to it as a dangerous dalliance for a few [free?] people---a sad evidence that, feeling prosperity we forget right---that liberty, as a principle, we have ceased to revere. I object to it because the fathers of the republic eschewed, and rejected it. The argument of &quot;Necessity&quot; was the only argument they ever admitted in favor of slavery; and so far, and so far only as it carried them, did they ever go. They found the institution existing among us, which they could not help; and they cast blame upon the British King for having permitted its introduction. BEFORE the constitution, they prohibited its introduction into the north-western Territory---the only country we owned, then free from it. AT the framing and adoption of the constitution, they forbore to so much as mention the word &quot;slave&quot; or &quot;slavery&quot; in the whole instrument. In the provision for the recovery of fugitives, the slave is spoken of as a &quot;PERSON HELD TO SERVICE OR LABOR.&quot; In that prohibiting the abolition of the African slave trade for twenty years, that trade is spoken of as &quot;The migration or importation of such persons as any of the States NOW EXISTING, shall think proper to admit,&quot; &amp;c. These are the only provisions alluding to slavery. Thus, the thing is hid away, in the constitution, just as an afflicted man hides away a wen or a cancer, which he dares not cut out at once, lest he bleed to death; with the promise, nevertheless, that the cutting may begin at the end of a given time. Less than this our fathers COULD not do; and NOW [MORE?] they WOULD not do. Necessity drove them so far, and farther, they would not go. But this is not all. The earliest Congress, under the constitution, took the same view of slavery. They hedged and hemmed it in to the narrowest limits of necessity.

In 1794, they prohibited an out-going slave-trade---that is, the taking of slaves FROM the United States to sell.

In 1798, they prohibited the bringing of slaves from Africa, INTO the Mississippi Territory---this territory then comprising what are now the States of Mississippi and Alabama. This was TEN YEARS before they had the authority to do the same thing as to the States existing at the adoption of the constitution.

In 1800 they prohibited AMERICAN CITIZENS from trading in slaves between foreign countries---as, for instance, from Africa to Brazil.

In 1803 they passed a law in aid of one or two State laws, in restraint of the internal slave trade.

In 1807, in apparent hot haste, they passed the law, nearly a year in advance to take effect the first day of 1808---the very first day the constitution would permit---prohibiting the African slave trade by heavy pecuniary and corporal penalties.

In 1820, finding these provisions ineffectual, they declared the trade piracy, and annexed to it, the extreme penalty of death. While all this was passing in the general government, five or six of the original slave States had adopted systems of gradual emancipation; and by which the institution was rapidly becoming extinct within these limits.

Thus we see, the plain unmistakable spirit of that age, towards slavery, was hostility to the PRINCIPLE, and toleration, ONLY BY NECESSITY.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



- Abraham Lincoln, in an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nps.gov/liho/historyculture/peoriaspeech.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1854 speech in Peoria.&lt;/a&gt;

Kind of amazing what politicians expected the average electorate to understand back then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I particularly object to the NEW position which the avowed principle of this Nebraska law gives to slavery in the body politic. I object to it because it assumes that there CAN be MORAL RIGHT in the enslaving of one man by another. I object to it as a dangerous dalliance for a few [free?] people&#8212;a sad evidence that, feeling prosperity we forget right&#8212;that liberty, as a principle, we have ceased to revere. I object to it because the fathers of the republic eschewed, and rejected it. The argument of &#8220;Necessity&#8221; was the only argument they ever admitted in favor of slavery; and so far, and so far only as it carried them, did they ever go. They found the institution existing among us, which they could not help; and they cast blame upon the British King for having permitted its introduction. BEFORE the constitution, they prohibited its introduction into the north-western Territory&#8212;the only country we owned, then free from it. AT the framing and adoption of the constitution, they forbore to so much as mention the word &#8220;slave&#8221; or &#8220;slavery&#8221; in the whole instrument. In the provision for the recovery of fugitives, the slave is spoken of as a &#8220;PERSON HELD TO SERVICE OR LABOR.&#8221; In that prohibiting the abolition of the African slave trade for twenty years, that trade is spoken of as &#8220;The migration or importation of such persons as any of the States NOW EXISTING, shall think proper to admit,&#8221; &amp;c. These are the only provisions alluding to slavery. Thus, the thing is hid away, in the constitution, just as an afflicted man hides away a wen or a cancer, which he dares not cut out at once, lest he bleed to death; with the promise, nevertheless, that the cutting may begin at the end of a given time. Less than this our fathers COULD not do; and NOW [MORE?] they WOULD not do. Necessity drove them so far, and farther, they would not go. But this is not all. The earliest Congress, under the constitution, took the same view of slavery. They hedged and hemmed it in to the narrowest limits of necessity.</p>
<p>In 1794, they prohibited an out-going slave-trade&#8212;that is, the taking of slaves FROM the United States to sell.</p>
<p>In 1798, they prohibited the bringing of slaves from Africa, INTO the Mississippi Territory&#8212;this territory then comprising what are now the States of Mississippi and Alabama. This was TEN YEARS before they had the authority to do the same thing as to the States existing at the adoption of the constitution.</p>
<p>In 1800 they prohibited AMERICAN CITIZENS from trading in slaves between foreign countries&#8212;as, for instance, from Africa to Brazil.</p>
<p>In 1803 they passed a law in aid of one or two State laws, in restraint of the internal slave trade.</p>
<p>In 1807, in apparent hot haste, they passed the law, nearly a year in advance to take effect the first day of 1808&#8212;the very first day the constitution would permit&#8212;prohibiting the African slave trade by heavy pecuniary and corporal penalties.</p>
<p>In 1820, finding these provisions ineffectual, they declared the trade piracy, and annexed to it, the extreme penalty of death. While all this was passing in the general government, five or six of the original slave States had adopted systems of gradual emancipation; and by which the institution was rapidly becoming extinct within these limits.</p>
<p>Thus we see, the plain unmistakable spirit of that age, towards slavery, was hostility to the PRINCIPLE, and toleration, ONLY BY NECESSITY.</p></blockquote>
<p>- Abraham Lincoln, in an <a href="http://www.nps.gov/liho/historyculture/peoriaspeech.htm" rel="nofollow">1854 speech in Peoria.</a></p>
<p>Kind of amazing what politicians expected the average electorate to understand back then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 01:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lincoln was very ignorant about blacks...he perceived them as sub par to whites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lincoln was very ignorant about blacks&#8230;he perceived them as sub par to whites.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/10/michelle-bachmann-graduate-of-palin-u/#comment-3728</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abraham Lincoln had a lot to say about the founders&#039; views on slavery.  Look it up.

Cooper is also ignorant on the function of the 3/5 clause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abraham Lincoln had a lot to say about the founders&#8217; views on slavery.  Look it up.</p>
<p>Cooper is also ignorant on the function of the 3/5 clause.</p>
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