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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4205</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, that&#039;s cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, that&#8217;s cool.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4204</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, comrade, I can&#039;t &quot;afford&quot; to read your analysis.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, as long as your party has that attitude, anything they have to say is &quot;completely irrelevant&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, comrade, I can&#8217;t &#8220;afford&#8221; to read your analysis.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, as long as your party has that attitude, anything they have to say is &#8220;completely irrelevant&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4203</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re going &quot;serpentine&quot; on me again.  I suggested reading my post on revenues and tax rates.  Have you?

We&#039;re talking deficits and economic recovery, and the numbers involved.  Whether or not anyone can &quot;afford&quot; the discussed tax levels is completely irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re going &#8220;serpentine&#8221; on me again.  I suggested reading my post on revenues and tax rates.  Have you?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking deficits and economic recovery, and the numbers involved.  Whether or not anyone can &#8220;afford&#8221; the discussed tax levels is completely irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4202</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The median household income in this country is about 50 grand a year.  If your family makes that much, about half the households in the country make more, about half less.

$250K is five times the median household income.  Five times.

And they can&#039;t afford the  crushing tax burden? You&#039;re breaking my heart, citizen.

You know, if these corporals of industry were providing us with a thriving economy, I might be grudgingly persuaded in sending a bit more in the way of rewards their way. But while the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the middle class asymptotically diminishes, and the stock market, corporate profits and executive salaries and bonuses rise while real worker income continues to decline, it is pretty clear the suits are simply not doing their job. 

Management  productivity has gone down while worker productivity  continues to climb to new heights.  It&#039;s pretty clear the free market is not working as advertised.  The guys who want the big tax cuts are just not working out. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The median household income in this country is about 50 grand a year.  If your family makes that much, about half the households in the country make more, about half less.</p>
<p>$250K is five times the median household income.  Five times.</p>
<p>And they can&#8217;t afford the  crushing tax burden? You&#8217;re breaking my heart, citizen.</p>
<p>You know, if these corporals of industry were providing us with a thriving economy, I might be grudgingly persuaded in sending a bit more in the way of rewards their way. But while the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the middle class asymptotically diminishes, and the stock market, corporate profits and executive salaries and bonuses rise while real worker income continues to decline, it is pretty clear the suits are simply not doing their job. </p>
<p>Management  productivity has gone down while worker productivity  continues to climb to new heights.  It&#8217;s pretty clear the free market is not working as advertised.  The guys who want the big tax cuts are just not working out.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4201</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we certainly don&#039;t want low taxes and high profits in this country, do we?

Which &quot;millionaire tax cut&quot; would that be?  The one Obama and the Democratic House and Senate extended because he said it would wreck the economy otherwise?  Or a different one?  Let&#039;s do some numbers.

Maybe we can bring up Obama&#039;s 2012 budget again, the one where he kills the tax cuts for those making $250,000 or more, gets rid of &quot;loopholes&quot; for oil companies and others, and reforms international tax laws.  And where Obamacare takes full effect.

If there&#039;s any &quot;fiscal voodoo&quot; going on it&#039;s in the gaseous political rhetoric that hopes to God nobody actually does the math.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we certainly don&#8217;t want low taxes and high profits in this country, do we?</p>
<p>Which &#8220;millionaire tax cut&#8221; would that be?  The one Obama and the Democratic House and Senate extended because he said it would wreck the economy otherwise?  Or a different one?  Let&#8217;s do some numbers.</p>
<p>Maybe we can bring up Obama&#8217;s 2012 budget again, the one where he kills the tax cuts for those making $250,000 or more, gets rid of &#8220;loopholes&#8221; for oil companies and others, and reforms international tax laws.  And where Obamacare takes full effect.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s any &#8220;fiscal voodoo&#8221; going on it&#8217;s in the gaseous political rhetoric that hopes to God nobody actually does the math.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4198</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above post improperly placed. But you get the general idea.  

I have nothing against Sen Dirksen, in fact, I remember him well and I miss the old pirate, unlike the sleazeball gang of Vegas Houseboys that have inherited the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above post improperly placed. But you get the general idea.  </p>
<p>I have nothing against Sen Dirksen, in fact, I remember him well and I miss the old pirate, unlike the sleazeball gang of Vegas Houseboys that have inherited the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4197</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spare us the sanctimonious history lesson, TB, Conservatives don&#039;t give a fig about anything but keeping taxes low and profits high.  

We&#039;re just not buying your pious humbug, Tom, no matter how much you cloak it in fiscal voodoo. What&#039;s happening is that the Republicans are willing to take the economy hostage just to extend a tax cut for millionaires. Sometimes the simple explanation is the true one.  Occam&#039;s razor, remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spare us the sanctimonious history lesson, TB, Conservatives don&#8217;t give a fig about anything but keeping taxes low and profits high.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re just not buying your pious humbug, Tom, no matter how much you cloak it in fiscal voodoo. What&#8217;s happening is that the Republicans are willing to take the economy hostage just to extend a tax cut for millionaires. Sometimes the simple explanation is the true one.  Occam&#8217;s razor, remember?</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4195</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really.  You didn&#039;t point it out, you made it up.

I thought the Dirksen film was quite significant.  It&#039;s over 40 years old, and nothing has really changed much since then.  Well, his old &quot;billion here, billion there&quot; saying would have to be changed to &quot;trillion.&quot;

Has anyone noticed how recently the term &quot;trillion&quot; has become commonplace in our fiscal discussions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really.  You didn&#8217;t point it out, you made it up.</p>
<p>I thought the Dirksen film was quite significant.  It&#8217;s over 40 years old, and nothing has really changed much since then.  Well, his old &#8220;billion here, billion there&#8221; saying would have to be changed to &#8220;trillion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Has anyone noticed how recently the term &#8220;trillion&#8221; has become commonplace in our fiscal discussions?</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4193</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what I pointed out was pretty simple and obvious too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what I pointed out was pretty simple and obvious too.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/07/23/the-difference-between-a-republican-and-a-democrat/#comment-4192</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  Neither Dirksen nor Jody made any value judgments of the kind you describe.

Dirksen simply pointed out Democratic ideas about how government should be run.  I pointed out some fiscal history.  Jody pointed out that yes, there are differences in the ideologies, and they are simple and obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  Neither Dirksen nor Jody made any value judgments of the kind you describe.</p>
<p>Dirksen simply pointed out Democratic ideas about how government should be run.  I pointed out some fiscal history.  Jody pointed out that yes, there are differences in the ideologies, and they are simple and obvious.</p>
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