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	<title>Comments on: One wonders if they watched that Clnit Eastwood Movie</title>
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		<title>By: CJB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/11/one-wonders-if-they-watched-that-clnit-eastwood-movie/#comment-4834</link>
		<dc:creator>CJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand.  

Maybe all we &#039;know&#039; about this system is artful misdirection.

This would be an ideal weapon to &lt;em&gt;clandestinely&lt;/em&gt; take out a very high value target, especially a mobile one, with a conventional warhead. Like an aircraft carrier. 

They would never know what hit them, they would have no idea where it came from, and they would have no counter-measures for it.

Aren&#039;t the Chinese developing their own naval air capability, and testing an anti carrier missile of their own?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand.  </p>
<p>Maybe all we &#8216;know&#8217; about this system is artful misdirection.</p>
<p>This would be an ideal weapon to <em>clandestinely</em> take out a very high value target, especially a mobile one, with a conventional warhead. Like an aircraft carrier. </p>
<p>They would never know what hit them, they would have no idea where it came from, and they would have no counter-measures for it.</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t the Chinese developing their own naval air capability, and testing an anti carrier missile of their own?</p>
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		<title>By: CJB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/11/one-wonders-if-they-watched-that-clnit-eastwood-movie/#comment-4833</link>
		<dc:creator>CJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true.  I guess you could use it as a high speed, quick response recon drone, once. But what does that get you if you have to abandon the vehicle (and perhaps its crew) to the tender mercies of the Iranians, N Koreans, or other bad guys. What an intelligence and propaganda bonanza would that be for them?  And what if after they expose it, it turns out it didn&#039;t find anything while it was there. It would have all the embarrassment and tragedy of a failed Bin Ladin assassination mission, but it would cost us billions in development too.

Only if it worked perfectly and managed to make a clean getaway (perhaps radioing its intelligence back and then plunging into the ocean), would it be worthwhile. Besides, the whole point to drones is that they are cheap and expendable, you don&#039;t care if the enemy does capture one.

This is a very expensive device that serves no purpose, a technological triumph with no application in the real world. Unless there is something that hasn&#039;t been made very clear yet, it sounds like they didn&#039;t think this one through. 

I have no problem with spending lots of money improving our intelligence gathering capabilities, but I would spend it on systems that were more flexible, and had more potential mission profiles, not on a one-trick pony that had only a one-shot chance of success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true.  I guess you could use it as a high speed, quick response recon drone, once. But what does that get you if you have to abandon the vehicle (and perhaps its crew) to the tender mercies of the Iranians, N Koreans, or other bad guys. What an intelligence and propaganda bonanza would that be for them?  And what if after they expose it, it turns out it didn&#8217;t find anything while it was there. It would have all the embarrassment and tragedy of a failed Bin Ladin assassination mission, but it would cost us billions in development too.</p>
<p>Only if it worked perfectly and managed to make a clean getaway (perhaps radioing its intelligence back and then plunging into the ocean), would it be worthwhile. Besides, the whole point to drones is that they are cheap and expendable, you don&#8217;t care if the enemy does capture one.</p>
<p>This is a very expensive device that serves no purpose, a technological triumph with no application in the real world. Unless there is something that hasn&#8217;t been made very clear yet, it sounds like they didn&#8217;t think this one through. </p>
<p>I have no problem with spending lots of money improving our intelligence gathering capabilities, but I would spend it on systems that were more flexible, and had more potential mission profiles, not on a one-trick pony that had only a one-shot chance of success.</p>
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		<title>By: Eri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 17:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could give us quick access to what&#039;s going on on the ground anywhere in the world with high tech video and audio equipment.  Someone says I want to know if Iran really does have X at this site and before Iran can hide it, our superultrasonic is there taking pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could give us quick access to what&#8217;s going on on the ground anywhere in the world with high tech video and audio equipment.  Someone says I want to know if Iran really does have X at this site and before Iran can hide it, our superultrasonic is there taking pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: CJB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard about this system.  It is an expendable vehicle, designed to be used on very valuable targets,depending on extreme surprise for success, then abandoned on site.

I wonder what this thing is supposed to actually do.  Near-instant response a world away?  What do they have in mind?  Precision delivery of an explosive, nuclear or conventional? A high accuracy (silo-busting) ICBM can do that already, that technology has existed for years. A sub-launched subsonic cruise missile can do the same thing too, and even faster than this vehicle, since its launcher can be maneuvered much closer to its target than this guy&#039;s CONUS launch facility.

Maybe they want the capability to insert a Seal Team or some other Special Ops outfit somewhere in a hurry, on a moment&#039;s notice.  But that makes no sense either.  Those guys train for months ahead of time before they are sent on that type of high value mission, and the support prep is intense, with multiple levels of redundancy and exhaustive study and rehearsal. It&#039;s not exactly the kind of weapon you draw from the hip and fire when you&#039;re bushwacked without warning. How would you extract your team after the successful execution of their attack (or recon, or kidnapping, or assassination)? Besides, Special Ops people can already be inserted in a variety of vehicles, including helicopters, parachute and submarines.

It is very difficult to conceive of any target valuable enough to an enemy, or strategically important enough to us, to make it worthwhile to go to all this expense. There is nothing that costs more to an enemy than the cost to us of getting this system ready. Even if successfully deployed, we lose. 

This looks like military pork, a capability in search of a mission. Somebody is having a lot of fun, and making a lot of money, playing with this toy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard about this system.  It is an expendable vehicle, designed to be used on very valuable targets,depending on extreme surprise for success, then abandoned on site.</p>
<p>I wonder what this thing is supposed to actually do.  Near-instant response a world away?  What do they have in mind?  Precision delivery of an explosive, nuclear or conventional? A high accuracy (silo-busting) ICBM can do that already, that technology has existed for years. A sub-launched subsonic cruise missile can do the same thing too, and even faster than this vehicle, since its launcher can be maneuvered much closer to its target than this guy&#8217;s CONUS launch facility.</p>
<p>Maybe they want the capability to insert a Seal Team or some other Special Ops outfit somewhere in a hurry, on a moment&#8217;s notice.  But that makes no sense either.  Those guys train for months ahead of time before they are sent on that type of high value mission, and the support prep is intense, with multiple levels of redundancy and exhaustive study and rehearsal. It&#8217;s not exactly the kind of weapon you draw from the hip and fire when you&#8217;re bushwacked without warning. How would you extract your team after the successful execution of their attack (or recon, or kidnapping, or assassination)? Besides, Special Ops people can already be inserted in a variety of vehicles, including helicopters, parachute and submarines.</p>
<p>It is very difficult to conceive of any target valuable enough to an enemy, or strategically important enough to us, to make it worthwhile to go to all this expense. There is nothing that costs more to an enemy than the cost to us of getting this system ready. Even if successfully deployed, we lose. </p>
<p>This looks like military pork, a capability in search of a mission. Somebody is having a lot of fun, and making a lot of money, playing with this toy.</p>
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