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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4960</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 01:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sure you&#039;re better off for not taking politics so serously, Jody.&lt;/p&gt;

The &quot;slimy factor&quot; was a moment of painful self-consiousness, like CJB&#039;s on this thread, realizing that we were behaving a lot like the people we&#039;re criticizing.

Up above, Lee used language that to my ear is brutal and violent (and ironically thuggish), but then I went and slapped him around a bit myself, calling him a liar and implying that he&#039;s a fool, and basically being as gratuitously insulting as he was being. In the clear cold light of day the next day I read my words and was embarrassed.

That&#039;s what I meant by the &quot;slimy factor&quot;: I felt like I&#039;d let myself be pulled down into the squishy green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re better off for not taking politics so serously, Jody.</p>
<p>The &#8220;slimy factor&#8221; was a moment of painful self-consiousness, like CJB&#8217;s on this thread, realizing that we were behaving a lot like the people we&#8217;re criticizing.</p>
<p>Up above, Lee used language that to my ear is brutal and violent (and ironically thuggish), but then I went and slapped him around a bit myself, calling him a liar and implying that he&#8217;s a fool, and basically being as gratuitously insulting as he was being. In the clear cold light of day the next day I read my words and was embarrassed.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I meant by the &#8220;slimy factor&#8221;: I felt like I&#8217;d let myself be pulled down into the squishy green.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4956</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 22:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting Robert. I guess I don&#039;t take politics seriously enough. I know I don&#039;t know. I know I am but one voice. I know I suck at debate. I know nothing I say will change a thing. 
My lessons on the Zone are quite different apparently. I don&#039;t understand the slimy factor. In other words...I simply do not take myself that seriously.

But my gawd what I have learned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting Robert. I guess I don&#8217;t take politics seriously enough. I know I don&#8217;t know. I know I am but one voice. I know I suck at debate. I know nothing I say will change a thing.<br />
My lessons on the Zone are quite different apparently. I don&#8217;t understand the slimy factor. In other words&#8230;I simply do not take myself that seriously.</p>
<p>But my gawd what I have learned!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4950</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the wrong kind of incentive. Politics can be dangerous to somebody with high blood pressure to begin with. Given that there&#039;s no chance to accomplish anything positive by political argument, it&#039;s all downside as far as I can see.

Next post up I got dragged into it, and felt pretty slimey within one post. Ironic that this little branch is about CJB having a similar moment of self-consciousness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the wrong kind of incentive. Politics can be dangerous to somebody with high blood pressure to begin with. Given that there&#8217;s no chance to accomplish anything positive by political argument, it&#8217;s all downside as far as I can see.</p>
<p>Next post up I got dragged into it, and felt pretty slimey within one post. Ironic that this little branch is about CJB having a similar moment of self-consciousness.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4941</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Robert...We rarely get a glimpse of you unless we post provocative polarizing political propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Robert&#8230;We rarely get a glimpse of you unless we post provocative polarizing political propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4935</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oopsie...responded to Robert...was meant for the new kid on the block..CJB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oopsie&#8230;responded to Robert&#8230;was meant for the new kid on the block..CJB.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4934</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hells Bells CJB...if it was aimed at me...GO FOR IT!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hells Bells CJB&#8230;if it was aimed at me&#8230;GO FOR IT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4932</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You confused me.&lt;/p&gt;

podrock&#039;s right to ask us to not delete posts. And it gives me another new item to add to the long list of things I can do to improve the software--it should be able to put that reasonable request into practice.

But I also want to add that self-censorhip makes me a bit uncomfortable. It&#039;s true you seemed on a somewhat bitter trajectory, so maybe it was right this time. But I hope you won&#039;t retract your words often or easily. You shouldn&#039;t have to walk on egg shells here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You confused me.</p>
<p>podrock&#8217;s right to ask us to not delete posts. And it gives me another new item to add to the long list of things I can do to improve the software&#8211;it should be able to put that reasonable request into practice.</p>
<p>But I also want to add that self-censorhip makes me a bit uncomfortable. It&#8217;s true you seemed on a somewhat bitter trajectory, so maybe it was right this time. But I hope you won&#8217;t retract your words often or easily. You shouldn&#8217;t have to walk on egg shells here.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4928</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a matter of practice, don&#039;t delete posts, edit them, indicating the post has been removed by the author. But I don&#039;t even like that.  If it has been replied to, then it breaks the stream of the thread.  I don&#039;t like the deleting of posts and only support limited editing of posts.  That&#039;s something we are going to have to figure out as we move forward.  In the old days, what you posted here stayed here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a matter of practice, don&#8217;t delete posts, edit them, indicating the post has been removed by the author. But I don&#8217;t even like that.  If it has been replied to, then it breaks the stream of the thread.  I don&#8217;t like the deleting of posts and only support limited editing of posts.  That&#8217;s something we are going to have to figure out as we move forward.  In the old days, what you posted here stayed here.</p>
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		<title>By: CJB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4926</link>
		<dc:creator>CJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 03:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I removed several posts I felt were unnecessarily provocative. I was starting to sound too much like the people I was criticizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I removed several posts I felt were unnecessarily provocative. I was starting to sound too much like the people I was criticizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/16/obamas-agenda/#comment-4924</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 02:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CJB: Didn&#039;t you have a post here?&lt;/p&gt;

Otherwise, why would I have replied to myself? Surely I didn&#039;t imagine a post by CJB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJB: Didn&#8217;t you have a post here?</p>
<p>Otherwise, why would I have replied to myself? Surely I didn&#8217;t imagine a post by CJB?</p>
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