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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/19/torchwood-miracle-day-2/#comment-5466</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 05:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watched the first episode, which was a treat, because I started watching the series in the middle back circa 99 and so had only a hazy grasp of the backstory. It was pretty epic by the time I joined in...I recall little incidents like the end of the universe, etc.

just bought the first season, only four episodes, but they&#039;re about 90 minutes, making them quite a bargain for my entertainment 99 cents. Video quality isn&#039;t so hot first season, gets progressively better based on samples of later seasons. 

If you liked Lexx that much, Frank, you might consider picking it up from Amazon. I don&#039;t think you need to be a Prime member to purchase, but you do need to use their player to unlock the encryption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched the first episode, which was a treat, because I started watching the series in the middle back circa 99 and so had only a hazy grasp of the backstory. It was pretty epic by the time I joined in&#8230;I recall little incidents like the end of the universe, etc.</p>
<p>just bought the first season, only four episodes, but they&#8217;re about 90 minutes, making them quite a bargain for my entertainment 99 cents. Video quality isn&#8217;t so hot first season, gets progressively better based on samples of later seasons. </p>
<p>If you liked Lexx that much, Frank, you might consider picking it up from Amazon. I don&#8217;t think you need to be a Prime member to purchase, but you do need to use their player to unlock the encryption.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/19/torchwood-miracle-day-2/#comment-5424</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 05:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Lexx. It got better each season and wound up almost epic good :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Lexx. It got better each season and wound up almost epic good <img src='https://habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/19/torchwood-miracle-day-2/#comment-5423</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 05:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, when I first saw Captain Jack on that crossover Dr. Who episode, he seemed like a jolly nice fellow, even if, even then, he did have that habit of going around kissing everybody. 

I&#039;d have to call him a complex character, even tortured, so my calling him a &quot;monster&quot; may be too one-dimensional. I&#039;m not sure where you can sample more recent episodes to give him another chance--doesn&#039;t show up on hulu/xfinity or bbcamerica.com. But if comes around on cable, give it a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, when I first saw Captain Jack on that crossover Dr. Who episode, he seemed like a jolly nice fellow, even if, even then, he did have that habit of going around kissing everybody. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to call him a complex character, even tortured, so my calling him a &#8220;monster&#8221; may be too one-dimensional. I&#8217;m not sure where you can sample more recent episodes to give him another chance&#8211;doesn&#8217;t show up on hulu/xfinity or bbcamerica.com. But if comes around on cable, give it a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/19/torchwood-miracle-day-2/#comment-5422</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 04:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, ranking is helpful. Also frustrating, since the two series I subscribed to are Eureka and Dr. Who. But I&#039;m enjoying &#039;em. In any case, I get Basic Torchwood free as part of my membership. So those bases are covered.

The reason I got into the thread long ago was because I&#039;d seen &quot;Miracle Day&quot; available on Amazon, and anticipated working my way to it. Damn, checked just now and it&#039;s gone. Their terms of service warn you that studios can revoke viewing rights, and I&#039;ve read lots of complaints about this before. But that&#039;s that, it&#039;s gone now, so I can only hope you&#039;re right, that it&#039;ll trickle down to Amazon before too much longer.

And damn, a postscript: Got to browsing Amazon, and stumbled upon &lt;i&gt;Lexx&lt;/i&gt;, speaking of Starz productions. Remember that freaky series? Amazon is giving away the first episode of each season. You just never know what&#039;s going to show up on Amazon...or how long it&#039;ll last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, ranking is helpful. Also frustrating, since the two series I subscribed to are Eureka and Dr. Who. But I&#8217;m enjoying &#8216;em. In any case, I get Basic Torchwood free as part of my membership. So those bases are covered.</p>
<p>The reason I got into the thread long ago was because I&#8217;d seen &#8220;Miracle Day&#8221; available on Amazon, and anticipated working my way to it. Damn, checked just now and it&#8217;s gone. Their terms of service warn you that studios can revoke viewing rights, and I&#8217;ve read lots of complaints about this before. But that&#8217;s that, it&#8217;s gone now, so I can only hope you&#8217;re right, that it&#8217;ll trickle down to Amazon before too much longer.</p>
<p>And damn, a postscript: Got to browsing Amazon, and stumbled upon <i>Lexx</i>, speaking of Starz productions. Remember that freaky series? Amazon is giving away the first episode of each season. You just never know what&#8217;s going to show up on Amazon&#8230;or how long it&#8217;ll last.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/19/torchwood-miracle-day-2/#comment-5419</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me it&#039;s worth it but I am so addicted to SF almost anything is &quot;worth it&quot;.

A comparison is probably better, I would rate it ahead of the syfy channel Monday nighters, but a very close call with Eureka. I find it more interesting than the second half of this years Dr Who. It has been a big disappointment.

BTW, I have been commenting on the much bigger budget Starz mini-series, Torchwood - Miracle Day. It could be a bit of a wait for you, with no instant premium access. But what the hey, the way things work these days it might be available next month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me it&#8217;s worth it but I am so addicted to SF almost anything is &#8220;worth it&#8221;.</p>
<p>A comparison is probably better, I would rate it ahead of the syfy channel Monday nighters, but a very close call with Eureka. I find it more interesting than the second half of this years Dr Who. It has been a big disappointment.</p>
<p>BTW, I have been commenting on the much bigger budget Starz mini-series, Torchwood &#8211; Miracle Day. It could be a bit of a wait for you, with no instant premium access. But what the hey, the way things work these days it might be available next month.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like I&#039;d be happier remembering him from Dr. Who and the early Torchwood series.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 22:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Immortality is no doubt one factor.&lt;/p&gt;

I&#039;ve watched a few more episodes since the post, into the second season. Owen&#039;s just been zombified, and how it happened was pure Jack. Christ, would you resurrect someone who&#039;s just been killed, for only two minutes, just to get their password?

Yet they&#039;re also weaving in the occasional Jack the Complex Messiah. Sometimes he does communicate the world-weariness of an immortal, usually after he executes somebody. And his dynamic with the team, aside from the sexual, has these episodes of sin and forgiveness, when Jack punishes then gathers in his wayward children.

I don&#039;t know if I&#039;m fascinated or repulsed. Which is, I guess, enough to keep me reluctantly returning  to it, just to see where it goes next.

I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve gotten to the episode containing &lt;i&gt;&quot;the unclothed soft porn intimacy between two British pale, hairy, most unattractive humans&quot;&lt;/i&gt;...or I&#039;ve blotted it out of my memory. Promiscuity may be out, but &quot;gritty reality&quot; is in, and that sounds plenty gritty. :-)

&lt;br/&gt;Ya know Frank, talking to somebody who&#039;s ahead in a TV series is a lot like having a conversation with a time traveler. I keep wanting to ask The Future: &quot;Does it get better?&quot; Yet I don&#039;t want spoilers, so I walk a fine line. I guess about the most I want to ask is this: Now that you&#039;ve progressed as far as you have, would you say it&#039;s been worth it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Immortality is no doubt one factor.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve watched a few more episodes since the post, into the second season. Owen&#8217;s just been zombified, and how it happened was pure Jack. Christ, would you resurrect someone who&#8217;s just been killed, for only two minutes, just to get their password?</p>
<p>Yet they&#8217;re also weaving in the occasional Jack the Complex Messiah. Sometimes he does communicate the world-weariness of an immortal, usually after he executes somebody. And his dynamic with the team, aside from the sexual, has these episodes of sin and forgiveness, when Jack punishes then gathers in his wayward children.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m fascinated or repulsed. Which is, I guess, enough to keep me reluctantly returning  to it, just to see where it goes next.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve gotten to the episode containing <i>&#8220;the unclothed soft porn intimacy between two British pale, hairy, most unattractive humans&#8221;</i>&#8230;or I&#8217;ve blotted it out of my memory. Promiscuity may be out, but &#8220;gritty reality&#8221; is in, and that sounds plenty gritty. <img src='https://habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ya know Frank, talking to somebody who&#8217;s ahead in a TV series is a lot like having a conversation with a time traveler. I keep wanting to ask The Future: &#8220;Does it get better?&#8221; Yet I don&#8217;t want spoilers, so I walk a fine line. I guess about the most I want to ask is this: Now that you&#8217;ve progressed as far as you have, would you say it&#8217;s been worth it?</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 21:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I getting close?

Sort of. My problem with the gay sexuality is twofold.

My first objection is the way he has started hitting on nearly every guy he comes in contact with. &quot;He has a knack for knowing who will be receptive.&quot; Before you think double standard, I would be equally put off by any action hero that behaved that way. Anyway, I thought promiscuity was out.

FGS, we get it, he&#039;s gay and it&#039;s okay, now move on.

The second objection is the unclothed soft porn intimacy between two British pale, hairy, most unattractive humans. Their gender has little to do with it. Two very unattractive females would have the same effect.

I see what you mean about him being a sociopath, Perhaps short of monster. 

In the role he demonstrates a distinct lack of sensitivity to the death of friends and lovers, as if it is an unavoidable side effect of immortality in a mortal world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I getting close?</p>
<p>Sort of. My problem with the gay sexuality is twofold.</p>
<p>My first objection is the way he has started hitting on nearly every guy he comes in contact with. &#8220;He has a knack for knowing who will be receptive.&#8221; Before you think double standard, I would be equally put off by any action hero that behaved that way. Anyway, I thought promiscuity was out.</p>
<p>FGS, we get it, he&#8217;s gay and it&#8217;s okay, now move on.</p>
<p>The second objection is the unclothed soft porn intimacy between two British pale, hairy, most unattractive humans. Their gender has little to do with it. Two very unattractive females would have the same effect.</p>
<p>I see what you mean about him being a sociopath, Perhaps short of monster. </p>
<p>In the role he demonstrates a distinct lack of sensitivity to the death of friends and lovers, as if it is an unavoidable side effect of immortality in a mortal world.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/19/torchwood-miracle-day-2/#comment-4998</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A few more episodes...&lt;/p&gt;

...a few more corpses. While the rest of the team might kill in self-defense, when you need a cold-blooded execution, Captain Jack&#039;s your man.

Ya know, Frank, I think I&#039;m starting to share your dim view of Jack Harkness. Once you get past the novelty of gay sexuality in a sci-fi show, you start to realize that Captain Jack is just not a very nice person. Bit of a sociopath, in fact. Or maybe monster is a better word.

Am I getting close?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more episodes&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;a few more corpses. While the rest of the team might kill in self-defense, when you need a cold-blooded execution, Captain Jack&#8217;s your man.</p>
<p>Ya know, Frank, I think I&#8217;m starting to share your dim view of Jack Harkness. Once you get past the novelty of gay sexuality in a sci-fi show, you start to realize that Captain Jack is just not a very nice person. Bit of a sociopath, in fact. Or maybe monster is a better word.</p>
<p>Am I getting close?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/19/torchwood-miracle-day-2/#comment-4980</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 01:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was being facetious about the liberal open-mindedness, anyway. It wasn&#039;t criticism. And you&#039;ve calibrated the scale a bit with your last comment, so now I know that the &quot;gay escapades&quot; to which you alluded must be quite a bit beyond the lingering kiss. Forewarned is forearmed ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being facetious about the liberal open-mindedness, anyway. It wasn&#8217;t criticism. And you&#8217;ve calibrated the scale a bit with your last comment, so now I know that the &#8220;gay escapades&#8221; to which you alluded must be quite a bit beyond the lingering kiss. Forewarned is forearmed <img src='https://habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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