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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5082</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 04:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government, of course.  The only Santa Claus Democrats believe in.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government, of course.  The only Santa Claus Democrats believe in.  <img src='https://habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eri</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5078</link>
		<dc:creator>Eri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 04:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean Santa Claus DOESN&#039;T deliver presents on Christmas Eve?  Who delivers them then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean Santa Claus DOESN&#8217;T deliver presents on Christmas Eve?  Who delivers them then?</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5072</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, paranoia strikes deep, you know.

I had to listen to the wailing about the New Dark Ages through most of my adult life every time a Republican became president.  Reagan, the first Bush, the second Bush.  All were evil god botherers who would snap us into the Inquisition as soon as they were elected.

This is not a new song for election years.

What did you think of that poll?  It should be encouraging to liberals that while half the Republicans are evil troglodytes, only a third of Democrats and independents are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, paranoia strikes deep, you know.</p>
<p>I had to listen to the wailing about the New Dark Ages through most of my adult life every time a Republican became president.  Reagan, the first Bush, the second Bush.  All were evil god botherers who would snap us into the Inquisition as soon as they were elected.</p>
<p>This is not a new song for election years.</p>
<p>What did you think of that poll?  It should be encouraging to liberals that while half the Republicans are evil troglodytes, only a third of Democrats and independents are.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5069</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franklin Delano Roosevelt.  But it was in another context altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franklin Delano Roosevelt.  But it was in another context altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5068</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, these guys believe I deserve to spend eternity in god&#039;s torture chamber because I don&#039;t believe in their crackpot banjo-plucking albino cult and now that they are trying to get one of their guys elected President (and yeah, Bachman is one, too)I&#039;m supposed to engage in genteel high school Is God Dead debates with them?

Jody, I&#039;m 64 years old, I went to college, I speak a foreign language, I know the stars by name and I can find my way by them at sea. Do you really expect me to take these people seriously?  Jody, these guys are an Ayatollah creepshow.  They have hair on their teeth.

Aaaarggghhhh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, these guys believe I deserve to spend eternity in god&#8217;s torture chamber because I don&#8217;t believe in their crackpot banjo-plucking albino cult and now that they are trying to get one of their guys elected President (and yeah, Bachman is one, too)I&#8217;m supposed to engage in genteel high school Is God Dead debates with them?</p>
<p>Jody, I&#8217;m 64 years old, I went to college, I speak a foreign language, I know the stars by name and I can find my way by them at sea. Do you really expect me to take these people seriously?  Jody, these guys are an Ayatollah creepshow.  They have hair on their teeth.</p>
<p>Aaaarggghhhh.</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5067</link>
		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From one troglodyte to another :-)

The people that believe that the planet Earth was created in six Earth days TOTALLY misunderstand the writing in Genesis.
First of all, the word “Genesis” means the very beginning of the universe, not the beginning of the planet Earth.  The word “heaven” = שמים shamayim = space, in scientific language.  The word ‘earth” =  ארץ &#039;erets = protomass, or the fundamental ingredient that the density of mass/matter is composed of.  This mentioned “earth” is without form and void, therefore it is not the matter/mass that we are familiar with.

Notice that in Genesis 1:5  “And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”

In other words, after the “light” was created there was no more Night, only evening and the morning.  After the first big bang there was dimming of the universe and another smaller big bang, and such repeated dimming and expanding, evening and mornings, have happened six times so far.
So the Day in Genesis does not refer to the rotation of the planet Earth, but the time between the collapse and expansion of the galaxies, or clusters of galaxies.
Six of such “days” is certainly long enough to evolve all the animals, including man.
Naturally, this means that the universe is teeming with planets that have vegetation and animals.
At least that is my understanding of the biblical days.

Reference from:  http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&amp;c=1&amp;v=1&amp;t=KJV#conc/1

Who was it that said “There is nothing to fear, except fear itself?”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From one troglodyte to another <img src='https://habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The people that believe that the planet Earth was created in six Earth days TOTALLY misunderstand the writing in Genesis.<br />
First of all, the word “Genesis” means the very beginning of the universe, not the beginning of the planet Earth.  The word “heaven” = שמים shamayim = space, in scientific language.  The word ‘earth” =  ארץ &#8216;erets = protomass, or the fundamental ingredient that the density of mass/matter is composed of.  This mentioned “earth” is without form and void, therefore it is not the matter/mass that we are familiar with.</p>
<p>Notice that in Genesis 1:5  “And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.”</p>
<p>In other words, after the “light” was created there was no more Night, only evening and the morning.  After the first big bang there was dimming of the universe and another smaller big bang, and such repeated dimming and expanding, evening and mornings, have happened six times so far.<br />
So the Day in Genesis does not refer to the rotation of the planet Earth, but the time between the collapse and expansion of the galaxies, or clusters of galaxies.<br />
Six of such “days” is certainly long enough to evolve all the animals, including man.<br />
Naturally, this means that the universe is teeming with planets that have vegetation and animals.<br />
At least that is my understanding of the biblical days.</p>
<p>Reference from:  <a href="http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&#038;c=1&#038;v=1&#038;t=KJV#conc/1" rel="nofollow">http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&#038;c=1&#038;v=1&#038;t=KJV#conc/1</a></p>
<p>Who was it that said “There is nothing to fear, except fear itself?”</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5066</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *did* post this on Flame. 

I don&#039;t understand your paranoia for the Christian right...but I see that it is extremely upsetting for you ER. I am sorry for that. I wish I could say something pithy that would help, but it won&#039;t, and I can not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *did* post this on Flame. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand your paranoia for the Christian right&#8230;but I see that it is extremely upsetting for you ER. I am sorry for that. I wish I could say something pithy that would help, but it won&#8217;t, and I can not.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5065</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TB, those Podunk schools are mostly in Texas, and its Perry who is proud that in his state both &quot;theories&quot; of creation are given equal weight.

This isn&#039;t just an endearing personal quirk, like being a Raiders fan, this is a guy who is running for President of my country. And all those little secular victories you mention, they are being queued up for rollback. You know that, it&#039;s the price you&#039;re going to have to pony up to get rid of Obama.  I hope its worth it for your sake, because it won&#039;t be for mine.

And what other &quot;irrational beliefs&quot; could you possibly be referring to?  Surely not the Communist International Conspiracy?  Remember Tom, we won the Cold War.  Real Communists exists only in the fevered libidos of the right wing.  You guys only drag them up when you need another tax cut. All you have to worry about are a few tired old lefties like me, and surely you don&#039;t think I qualify as a genuine threat, do you? 

I know its not as fundamental as light bulb freedoms are to you, but this means a lot to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TB, those Podunk schools are mostly in Texas, and its Perry who is proud that in his state both &#8220;theories&#8221; of creation are given equal weight.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t just an endearing personal quirk, like being a Raiders fan, this is a guy who is running for President of my country. And all those little secular victories you mention, they are being queued up for rollback. You know that, it&#8217;s the price you&#8217;re going to have to pony up to get rid of Obama.  I hope its worth it for your sake, because it won&#8217;t be for mine.</p>
<p>And what other &#8220;irrational beliefs&#8221; could you possibly be referring to?  Surely not the Communist International Conspiracy?  Remember Tom, we won the Cold War.  Real Communists exists only in the fevered libidos of the right wing.  You guys only drag them up when you need another tax cut. All you have to worry about are a few tired old lefties like me, and surely you don&#8217;t think I qualify as a genuine threat, do you? </p>
<p>I know its not as fundamental as light bulb freedoms are to you, but this means a lot to me.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5064</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren&#039;t you making my point?  The real religious extremists have declined over the years, and are still failing.  Abortion is legal.  Gay marriage is becoming a norm.  When the worst threat to our society is some podunk school district that wants to talk about creation in their schools, and when anyone who tries to have prayers in school gets a small asteroid dropped on them by the courts, I think we can say that the battle has been settled a long time ago.

I wish to God (sorry) other irrational beliefs were this isolated and harmless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t you making my point?  The real religious extremists have declined over the years, and are still failing.  Abortion is legal.  Gay marriage is becoming a norm.  When the worst threat to our society is some podunk school district that wants to talk about creation in their schools, and when anyone who tries to have prayers in school gets a small asteroid dropped on them by the courts, I think we can say that the battle has been settled a long time ago.</p>
<p>I wish to God (sorry) other irrational beliefs were this isolated and harmless.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2011/08/24/just-sayin-2/#comment-5063</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See what you and Eric started?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See what you and Eric started?</p>
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