All “online” polls are suspect, for a number of reasons. Regular polls, usually by phone under various restrictions, are better. It’s always important to punch past the news writers to get to the actual poll where you can examine all the questions and answers yourself, along with the demographics of the people who took the poll.

And the polls. I am under the impression you don’t trust polls, don’t think they reflect reality, etc. Did you find one that agrees with you?

Everybody has already done their own counting. Look at the polls.

Type 2, the believer of whatever is in the best interests of the 1%.

A wonderful example of someone who has never held the pap fed him growing up to the light, to see how it compares with reality. Hanging onto a 12 y/o’s worldview, which is perfectly appropriate for a 12 y/o. Remember what St. Paul said, “When I was a child I believed what a child does, and now that I’m grown I believe what an adult does” or words to that effect.

They are not the same. Except for a minority of folks to whom the introduction of newer concepts is too frightening.

Arf

It’s amazing you can even type the words “facts and data” without your head exploding, although you do have a gift for creativity.

I asked if global warming was a real phenomenum and if it was anthropomorphic. He said there are three answers.

First, scientifically, there is no doubt the warming is real and is man-made.

Second, from the energy producers, the answer is that it’s a normal variation such as has been seen many, many times in the past and Man is not a factor. They are following the same strategies the tobacco companies used very successfully for years, denying and funding questionable studies. They have virtually unlimited money to do this.

Third comes the right-wing, including but not limited to fundamental Christians. They deny anything but a possible normal variation because to accept more would impact their way of life. Their model is that which is used in the creation v. evolution debate, which allows them to believe anything regardless of facts and data. They are set in their beliefs and will never change in their generation. They eagerly grab the studies put out by the energy companies to rationalize their denial.

He added that the consequences of this warming cannot be predicted with anything approaching precision, and the prognosticators are all guessing.

I rather enjoyed the time I spent with him, and especially enjoyed his breakdown of the “answer” into three “answers”.

Here.

Pay attention to “observed” and “projected.”