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One thing is obvious - the US military is unable to win modern wars. November 27, 2011 3:42 pm bowser

Money Down A Rathole Dept.:  The US military is trying to fight wars of ideas without occupying the lands from which the opposing ideas spring.  Vietnam was a first.  The claim that the enemy was hiding among the populace was nonsense.  The enemy WAS the populace, it was the people we were fighting.  Same with Iraq.  US troops aren’t safe there unless they are in force.  The population resents us.  The insurgents seem to be safe enough among them.  In Afghanistan, B-52s against nomadic folk living in those hillsides is like using a .22 against a chameleon at 200 yards in the desert – you’ll hit something, raise some dust, but likely as not it won’t be the chameleon.

We need a military, granted, but not 10 times the military force of all other nations combined.  (I believe that was Rumsfeld.)  One, it’s not doing us any good, and two, it’s expensive.

The US has other needs besides a military which would win WWII in a heartbeat.  Border security is a big one, maybe the only one.  We need CBs to build hospitals, libraries, schools and clinics in foreign countries, part of a real hearts and minds program.  We don’t need to start a school and film it from every angle for propaganda purposes and then leave.  There’s no sense in continuing.  Suffice it to say that we will not “win” by kicking down doors, raping women, torturing men and women, and imprisoning them in Eastern European and Middle Eastern countries where they can be REALLY tortured.  It’s not working and it won’t work.

 

“U.S. Republicans will try to spare defense programs by reconfiguring the $1.2 trillion in spending cuts that are to be triggered starting in 2013 by the collapse of a congressional deficit-cutting committee, a leading Republican senator said Sunday.

“I think there’s a broad consensus that too much of the cuts are weighted on our defense’s capabilities and would really, really cut in deeply into our ability to defend this nation,” said Senator Pat Toomey, a member of the “super committee” that failed last week to reach a deal to reduce the huge U.S. debt.”

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/27/9051774-sunday-shows-republicans-to-reconfigure-us-budget-cuts

 

  • Sure looks like there's room for cuts by RobVG 2011-11-28 00:58:31
    • Not a bad idea. by TB 2011-11-28 10:55:24
    • The military and entitlements are a huge chunk of the budget. by TB 2011-11-27 16:05:25
      • OK. Let's say you're right, and we do away with Social Security and Medicare. Wipe 'em off the ... by bowser 2011-11-28 00:39:11
        • "Do away with Social Security and Medicare?" by TB 2011-11-28 10:51:01
          • OK. Just exactly what would you like to see done with Social Security and Medicare? In your ideal ... by bowser 2011-11-28 15:03:30
            • Modify them. Bring competition and choice into the system. by TB 2011-11-28 16:05:13
              • Are you aware that Social SECURITY was born largely as the result of the collapse of exactly they systems you ... by bowser 2011-11-28 16:53:17
                • What would you do to bring competition and choice into Medicare? by bowser 2011-11-28 16:42:06
              • It is like Groundhog Day (the movie) here sometimes TB.... by Jody 2011-11-28 11:08:16
              • Well, if we ignore all the fiscal, economic and humanitarian issues, and just think of the tangible and immediate effects ... by ER 2011-11-28 06:34:15
                • As they lead us into a better world, the human suffering will be seen to be negligible, simply a price ... by bowser 2011-11-28 16:02:38
              • Yeah, but the vast bulk of the entitlements are spent right here in the USA, where they go right back ... by ER 2011-11-27 19:02:13
                • Now there's a can of worms for you. by TB 2011-11-28 10:46:51
                  • Well, lets start with the tank. Sure, a million dollar tank generates a lot of economic activity, research, workers, ... by ER 2011-11-28 11:47:42
                    • Aren't we focusing on asymmetric warfare? I understand we are, maybe not. Aren't we working on a Main Battle Tank, that ... by FrankC 2011-11-28 18:14:35
                      • Military men are inherently conservative. They are always preparing to fight the last war, not the next. And ... by ER 2011-11-28 18:45:19
                      • P.S. "Tax break?" by TB 2011-11-28 12:07:23
                        • Yeah, The prosperous are carrying the entire tax burden on their shoulders, they are supporting everyone else. At the same time, ... by ER 2011-11-28 12:13:47
                          • First of all, nobody said "entire." Remember the Bowser Lesson. by TB 2011-11-28 12:44:50
                            • And just for comparison: by TB 2011-11-28 12:52:20
                              • Tom, you keep on trotting out the same figures which justify why those with little must give up more, and ... by ER 2011-11-28 13:56:21
                                • "Tom, you keep on trotting out the same figures which justify why those with little must give up more, and ... by TB 2011-11-28 15:55:51
                                  • TB, look at it as a physicist would look at a set of data. The primary characteristic of this ... by ER 2011-11-28 16:20:26
                                    • You use of the word "transfer" is loaded. I already discussed that. by TB 2011-11-28 17:53:44
                                      • The use of "transfer" was a euphemism. What I really meant was "ripoff". Besides, just becaused you dismissed it earlier does ... by ER 2011-11-28 18:21:58
                        • Your original point was about "money spent domestically" vs. "money spent overseas," and I probably should have focused more tightly ... by TB 2011-11-28 11:58:42

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