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Lest we forget. December 15, 2011 12:12 am bowser

George Walker Bush, as President of the United States.  Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces.

September 2004: “And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence. And the people of Afghanistan are now free.”

December 2004: “In Afghanistan, America and our allies, with a historically small force and a brilliant strategy, defeated the Taliban in just a few short weeks.”

October 2005: “Over the years these extremists have used a litany of excuses for violence — the Israeli presence on the West Bank, or the U.S. military presence in Saudi Arabia, or the defeat of the Taliban, or the Crusades of a thousand years ago.”

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2008/12/15/33732/bush-taliban-eliminated/

I don’t know what good, if any, a post like this does.  I don’t think the American people are ready to accept that they could have been lied to so monstrously by their elected leaders.  It would be too unsettling, create too much insecurity, would shatter their faith in the government.  They would rather find a way to work around an unequivocal  statement such as “Taliban no longer is in existence”.

And I think that it’s as important to remember these betrayals as much as we remember 9-11 and Pearl Harbor.  But we won’t.

 

Arf

  • Yeah, that was a foolish thing to say but it wasn't his first flub. But as far as "defeat" goes ... by RobVG 2011-12-15 09:58:53
    • I truly wish that was just a "flub". It wasn't. Bush repeatedly lied to con the American public ... by bowser 2011-12-15 12:39:40
      • It's not Bush touting our victories right now. by TB 2011-12-15 10:50:39
        • George Bush made a lot of promises regarding Iraq prior to 2008. He was going to destroy Al-Quaeda, crush the Taliban ... by ER 2011-12-15 11:49:46
          • Obama says Iraq is a great success. Take it up with him. by TB 2011-12-15 12:17:44
            • Don't take my word for it. Listen to a man who actually helped plan the Bush/Cheney Iraq invasion. by ER 2011-12-15 12:34:16
              • Again: by TB 2011-12-15 13:17:07
                • P.S. by TB 2011-12-15 13:43:12
                • You won't believe this. And I'll try to type long enough to get it out of the heading. ... by bowser 2011-12-15 13:03:43
                  • This from someone who doesn't even read a lot of my posts. by TB 2011-12-15 13:26:07
                    • Of course... by TB 2011-12-15 13:53:07
                      • It would be completely naive to suggest Obama started with a clean slate, as you try to imply over and ... by bowser 2011-12-15 15:53:39
                        • Nobody was talking about Obama's "slate." by TB 2011-12-15 16:08:10
                          • What WAS he supposed to tell those troops? The truth? That the whole Iraq war was naked agression based ... by ER 2011-12-15 17:32:30
                            • Ah. He was lying in his teeth. by TB 2011-12-17 11:54:01
                              • Don't you mean the Makaka press conference? 8) by ER 2011-12-17 12:59:18

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