Comments on: Obama may have just blown the election. https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/ Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:41:18 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: alcaray https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11928 alcaray Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:18:22 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11928 <p>And then there's this.</p> <a href="http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/408347/february-14-2012/contraception-crusade" rel="nofollow">A few funny lines in here.</a> And then there’s this.

A few funny lines in here.

]]> By: alcaray https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11926 alcaray Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:19:29 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11926 <p>I don't think Obama has anything to worry about</p> <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57377864-503544/poll-most-back-mandating-contraception-coverage/?tag=contentMain;contentBody" rel="nofollow">Some polling that shows Americans support the rule change.</a> Frankly, I think the Republicans are digging another hole for themselves. I don’t think Obama has anything to worry about

Some polling that shows Americans support the rule change. Frankly, I think the Republicans are digging another hole for themselves.

]]> By: alcaray https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11910 alcaray Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:55:07 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11910 And ps: if you don't like the employer health care mandate, you need to complain to Nixon. n/t And ps: if you don’t like the employer health care mandate, you need to complain to Nixon. n/t

]]> By: alcaray https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11905 alcaray Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:10:41 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11905 The fact that employers can choose what health care their employees should have seems screwy to me. n/t The fact that employers can choose what health care their employees should have seems screwy to me. n/t

]]> By: Lee https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11899 Lee Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:52:53 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11899 The fact that government can force employers to provide health insurance to their employees seems screwy to me. The fact that government can force employers to provide health insurance to their employees seems screwy to me.

]]> By: alcaray https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11895 alcaray Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:59:09 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11895 The liberal Catholics I know use contraception. n/t The liberal Catholics I know use contraception. n/t

]]> By: alcaray https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11870 alcaray Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:23:44 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11870 <p>I don't think you portray what the change is very accurately.</p> It says simply that organizations (including religious ones) that provide enough employment to trigger the requirement that they provide health care for their employees, must include birth control in that health care. This is already enacted as law in 28 of the states. It is a far more modest proposal than is portrayed in the news for some reason. Too many crazies shrieking about it, I guess. I don’t think you portray what the change is very accurately.

It says simply that organizations (including religious ones) that provide enough employment to trigger the requirement that they provide health care for their employees, must include birth control in that health care. This is already enacted as law in 28 of the states. It is a far more modest proposal than is portrayed in the news for some reason. Too many crazies shrieking about it, I guess.

]]> By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11838 bowser Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:12:06 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11838 As the issue moves from abortion to contraception it would seem to become less of an asset for Conservatives. I believe many people who are opposed to abortion prefer contraception as an alternative. By including this in the mix I think they exclude a lot of people. As the issue moves from abortion to contraception it would seem to become less of an asset for Conservatives. I believe many people who are opposed to abortion prefer contraception as an alternative. By including this in the mix I think they exclude a lot of people.

]]> By: VelociraptorBlade https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11800 VelociraptorBlade Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:19:47 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11800 This conflict seems quite common, wit those trying to help everyone locking horns with those trying to help a select few. Being an Agnostic (one step above atheism), I don't see a problem here. In matters of church and state, the state holds the highest authority, and I would rather support a flexible, amendable, "living" institution that constantly modernized itself, than one set stone cold dead in idioms outdated by centuries, even millenia. I'm going to get a lot of crap for saying this, but if people of a given religion (in this case, Catholicism) disagree with their church and holy texts on any given point, then they can't really be called followers of that religion. In this case, if Catholics do not agree with the Holy See on matters of abortion and birth control, then they are not Catholics. I recommend they switch to Protestantism. This conflict seems quite common, wit those trying to help everyone locking horns with those trying to help a select few.

Being an Agnostic (one step above atheism), I don’t see a problem here. In matters of church and state, the state holds the highest authority, and I would rather support a flexible, amendable, “living” institution that constantly modernized itself, than one set stone cold dead in idioms outdated by centuries, even millenia.

I’m going to get a lot of crap for saying this, but if people of a given religion (in this case, Catholicism) disagree with their church and holy texts on any given point, then they can’t really be called followers of that religion. In this case, if Catholics do not agree with the Holy See on matters of abortion and birth control, then they are not Catholics. I recommend they switch to Protestantism.

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/07/obama-may-have-just-blown-the-election/#comment-11754 ER Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:17:10 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=9618#comment-11754 I hope you're right. n/t I hope you’re right. n/t

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