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		<title>By: Jeff-Wash</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/02/08/how-many-of-you-have-had-a-chance-to-read-the-poem-locksley-hall/#comment-11864</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff-Wash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hint?

OK! Set some time aside and read that subchapter set against the backdrop of the &quot;Crystal Palace&quot; in my story about the Valcours here on HZ.
  Obviously, the Valcours are  fictional characters, but John Stringfellow and Sir George Cayley 
are not.

No offense, but no more freebies to anyone here on HZ regarding that story. I&#039;m seeking remuneration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hint?</p>
<p>OK! Set some time aside and read that subchapter set against the backdrop of the &#8220;Crystal Palace&#8221; in my story about the Valcours here on HZ.<br />
  Obviously, the Valcours are  fictional characters, but John Stringfellow and Sir George Cayley<br />
are not.</p>
<p>No offense, but no more freebies to anyone here on HZ regarding that story. I&#8217;m seeking remuneration.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 1830&#039;s, when the poem was written, can be considered to be the very beginning of modernity.  The electric telegraph, the steamship and railroad were introduced about that time.  People for the first time could actually see technological change occuring around them, changing their lives. The Industrial Revolution was underway, with its mass manufacturing, urbanization and all the social baggage that goes along with it.

For the preceding generations, change was something that you might be aware of if you were educated, but as far as most people were concerned, the world their grandchildren would live in was going to be pretty much the one their grandparents came from. Except for geographically or historically localized events like wars, plagues or famines, people simply didn&#039;t think in terms of &quot;social change&quot;, especially that brought about by new technology. 

As one Naval historian once put it, if Chistopher Columbus (1492) had been aboard Nelson&#039;s flagship HMS Victory at Trafalgar (1805), he would have marveled at its size and complexity, but would have had no trouble understanding how it was built, navigated, sailed and fought. 

 I think Tennyson was aware he lived in a time of change, and was naturally optimistic about it.  Remember what Stanley Kubrick (1968)
imagined 2001 would be like?

Unfortunately, I haven&#039;t read your story yet.  Can you give me a hint?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 1830&#8242;s, when the poem was written, can be considered to be the very beginning of modernity.  The electric telegraph, the steamship and railroad were introduced about that time.  People for the first time could actually see technological change occuring around them, changing their lives. The Industrial Revolution was underway, with its mass manufacturing, urbanization and all the social baggage that goes along with it.</p>
<p>For the preceding generations, change was something that you might be aware of if you were educated, but as far as most people were concerned, the world their grandchildren would live in was going to be pretty much the one their grandparents came from. Except for geographically or historically localized events like wars, plagues or famines, people simply didn&#8217;t think in terms of &#8220;social change&#8221;, especially that brought about by new technology. </p>
<p>As one Naval historian once put it, if Chistopher Columbus (1492) had been aboard Nelson&#8217;s flagship HMS Victory at Trafalgar (1805), he would have marveled at its size and complexity, but would have had no trouble understanding how it was built, navigated, sailed and fought. </p>
<p> I think Tennyson was aware he lived in a time of change, and was naturally optimistic about it.  Remember what Stanley Kubrick (1968)<br />
imagined 2001 would be like?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I haven&#8217;t read your story yet.  Can you give me a hint?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff-Wash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff-Wash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I should have been more specific.
I was thinking how astonishingly
prescient he was.
&quot;Commerce&quot; in the skies.
&quot;Ghastly bales&quot; dropped.
Even the &quot;Parliament of Man&quot; rings
a familiar tone in the form of the 
United Nations.
I&#039;m not saying he was a psychic or a 
supernatural prophet - - - I think my story drops hints how he might have known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I should have been more specific.<br />
I was thinking how astonishingly<br />
prescient he was.<br />
&#8220;Commerce&#8221; in the skies.<br />
&#8220;Ghastly bales&#8221; dropped.<br />
Even the &#8220;Parliament of Man&#8221; rings<br />
a familiar tone in the form of the<br />
United Nations.<br />
I&#8217;m not saying he was a psychic or a<br />
supernatural prophet &#8211; - &#8211; I think my story drops hints how he might have known.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there is a sequel to the Odyssey, although it was written much later, and not by Homer.  A few fragments of it survive, quoted by Classical authors.

Odysseus is accidentally killed by his son Telegonus (by Circe) when he raids Ithaca, mistaking it for another island.  There are other variants of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there is a sequel to the Odyssey, although it was written much later, and not by Homer.  A few fragments of it survive, quoted by Classical authors.</p>
<p>Odysseus is accidentally killed by his son Telegonus (by Circe) when he raids Ithaca, mistaking it for another island.  There are other variants of the story.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love that poem.&lt;/p&gt;  It&#039;s how I wanted the story of Ulysses to end.  I like to think he took his wife with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that poem.</p>
<p>  It&#8217;s how I wanted the story of Ulysses to end.  I like to think he took his wife with him.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not sure I cared much for that one.&lt;/p&gt;  I found the meter distracting. I wasn&#039;t familiar with it, but looked it up at your suggestion.

I was struck by how much it reminded me of of the beginning of Waugh&#039;s &quot;Brideshead Revisted&quot;, indeed, too reminiscent for it to be a coincidence.  It starts in practically the same way. Prior to being shipped to Europe during WWII, the narrator, Army officer Charles Ryder, is quartered with his unit at Brideshead, the ancestral home of the aristocratic Flyte family, where he had spent much of his youth during the 20s and 30s.

The place is deserted, like Locksley Hall, but is filled with bitter memories for Ryder;  memories of a disastrous friendship, a tragic family, and a destroyed love.  The story of his relationship with the Flytes unravels as flashbacks as he wanders about the old manor, and it gives him a last look at his innocence, his lost youth, his own failed marriage, his late and bitter introduction to the Catholic Faith, and the end of upper-class England between the wars, a world of elegance and privilege which will never come to Britain again.

It&#039;s a slim little novel, but devastating.  BBC made a fine miniseries out of it they play on Public TV every now and then.  I highly recommend it. 

Here&#039;s one of my favorites from Alfred, Lord T.

ULYSSES
Alfred, Lord Tennyson

It little profits that an idle king, 
By this still hearth, among these barren crags, 
Matched with an aged wife, I mete and dole 
Unequal laws unto a savage race, 
That hoard, and sleep, and feed, and know not me. 
I cannot rest from travel; I will drink 
life to the lees. All times I have enjoyed 
Greatly, have suffered greatly, both with those 
that loved me, and alone; on shore, and when 
Through scudding drifts the rainy Hyades 
Vexed the dim sea. I am become a name; 
For always roaming with a hungry heart 
Much have I seen and known---cities of men 
And manners, climates, councils, governments, 
Myself not least, but honored of them all--- 
And drunk delight of battle with my peers, 
Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy. 
I am part of all that I have met; 
Yet all experience is an arch wherethrough 
Gleams that untraveled world whose margin fades 
Forever and forever when I move. 
How dull it is to pause, to make an end. 
To rust unburnished, not to shine in use! 
As though to breathe were life! Life piled on life 
Were all too little, and of one to me 
Little remains; but every hour is saved 
From that eternal silence, something more, 
A bringer of new things; and vile it were 
For some three suns to store and hoard myself, 
And this gray spirit yearning in desire 
To follow knowledge like a sinking star, 
Beyond the utmost bound of human thought. 
This is my son, my own Telemachus, 
To whom I leave the scepter and the isle--- 
Well-loved of me, discerning to fulfill 
This labor, by slow prudence to make mild 
A rugged people, and through soft degrees 
Subdue them to the useful and the good. 
Most blameless is he, centered in the sphere 
Of common duties, decent not to fail 
In offices of tenderness, and pay 
Meet adoration to my household gods, 
When I am gone. He works his work, I mine. 


There lies the port; the vessel puffs her sail; 
There gloom the dark, broad seas. My mariners, 
Souls that have toiled, and wrought, and thought with me--- 
That ever with a frolic welcome took 
The thunder and the sunshine, and opposed 
Free hearts, free foreheads---you and I are old; 
Old age hath yet his honor and his toil. 
Death closes all; but something ere the end, 
Some work of noble note, may yet be done, 
Not unbecoming men that strove with gods. 
The lights begin to twinkle from the rocks; 
The long day wanes; the slow moon climbs; the deep 
Moans round with many voices. Come, my friends. 
&#039;Tis not too late to seek a newer world. 
Push off, and sitting well in order smite 
the sounding furrows; for my purpose holds 
To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths 
Of all the western stars, until I die. 
It may be that the gulfs will wash us down; 
It may be that we shall touch the Happy Isles, 
And see the great Achilles, whom we knew. 
Though much is taken, much abides; and though 
We are not now that strength which in old days 
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are--- 
One equal temper of heroic hearts, 
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will 
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield. 

1842</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I cared much for that one.</p>
<p>  I found the meter distracting. I wasn&#8217;t familiar with it, but looked it up at your suggestion.</p>
<p>I was struck by how much it reminded me of of the beginning of Waugh&#8217;s &#8220;Brideshead Revisted&#8221;, indeed, too reminiscent for it to be a coincidence.  It starts in practically the same way. Prior to being shipped to Europe during WWII, the narrator, Army officer Charles Ryder, is quartered with his unit at Brideshead, the ancestral home of the aristocratic Flyte family, where he had spent much of his youth during the 20s and 30s.</p>
<p>The place is deserted, like Locksley Hall, but is filled with bitter memories for Ryder;  memories of a disastrous friendship, a tragic family, and a destroyed love.  The story of his relationship with the Flytes unravels as flashbacks as he wanders about the old manor, and it gives him a last look at his innocence, his lost youth, his own failed marriage, his late and bitter introduction to the Catholic Faith, and the end of upper-class England between the wars, a world of elegance and privilege which will never come to Britain again.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a slim little novel, but devastating.  BBC made a fine miniseries out of it they play on Public TV every now and then.  I highly recommend it. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one of my favorites from Alfred, Lord T.</p>
<p>ULYSSES<br />
Alfred, Lord Tennyson</p>
<p>It little profits that an idle king,<br />
By this still hearth, among these barren crags,<br />
Matched with an aged wife, I mete and dole<br />
Unequal laws unto a savage race,<br />
That hoard, and sleep, and feed, and know not me.<br />
I cannot rest from travel; I will drink<br />
life to the lees. All times I have enjoyed<br />
Greatly, have suffered greatly, both with those<br />
that loved me, and alone; on shore, and when<br />
Through scudding drifts the rainy Hyades<br />
Vexed the dim sea. I am become a name;<br />
For always roaming with a hungry heart<br />
Much have I seen and known&#8212;cities of men<br />
And manners, climates, councils, governments,<br />
Myself not least, but honored of them all&#8212;<br />
And drunk delight of battle with my peers,<br />
Far on the ringing plains of windy Troy.<br />
I am part of all that I have met;<br />
Yet all experience is an arch wherethrough<br />
Gleams that untraveled world whose margin fades<br />
Forever and forever when I move.<br />
How dull it is to pause, to make an end.<br />
To rust unburnished, not to shine in use!<br />
As though to breathe were life! Life piled on life<br />
Were all too little, and of one to me<br />
Little remains; but every hour is saved<br />
From that eternal silence, something more,<br />
A bringer of new things; and vile it were<br />
For some three suns to store and hoard myself,<br />
And this gray spirit yearning in desire<br />
To follow knowledge like a sinking star,<br />
Beyond the utmost bound of human thought.<br />
This is my son, my own Telemachus,<br />
To whom I leave the scepter and the isle&#8212;<br />
Well-loved of me, discerning to fulfill<br />
This labor, by slow prudence to make mild<br />
A rugged people, and through soft degrees<br />
Subdue them to the useful and the good.<br />
Most blameless is he, centered in the sphere<br />
Of common duties, decent not to fail<br />
In offices of tenderness, and pay<br />
Meet adoration to my household gods,<br />
When I am gone. He works his work, I mine. </p>
<p>There lies the port; the vessel puffs her sail;<br />
There gloom the dark, broad seas. My mariners,<br />
Souls that have toiled, and wrought, and thought with me&#8212;<br />
That ever with a frolic welcome took<br />
The thunder and the sunshine, and opposed<br />
Free hearts, free foreheads&#8212;you and I are old;<br />
Old age hath yet his honor and his toil.<br />
Death closes all; but something ere the end,<br />
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,<br />
Not unbecoming men that strove with gods.<br />
The lights begin to twinkle from the rocks;<br />
The long day wanes; the slow moon climbs; the deep<br />
Moans round with many voices. Come, my friends.<br />
&#8216;Tis not too late to seek a newer world.<br />
Push off, and sitting well in order smite<br />
the sounding furrows; for my purpose holds<br />
To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths<br />
Of all the western stars, until I die.<br />
It may be that the gulfs will wash us down;<br />
It may be that we shall touch the Happy Isles,<br />
And see the great Achilles, whom we knew.<br />
Though much is taken, much abides; and though<br />
We are not now that strength which in old days<br />
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are&#8212;<br />
One equal temper of heroic hearts,<br />
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will<br />
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield. </p>
<p>1842</p>
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