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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12678</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 03:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This started when your side tried to force a religious organization to pay for something it shouldn&#039;t have to.&lt;/p&gt;

The provocation was deliberate.  Fluke, a long-time activist, entered that school by her own admission with the specific intent of throwing that monkey wrench.

In a desperate attempt to keep people from discussing the constitutional implications the Democrats started taking shots at Rush.

Then it turned out your side had a lot more media assholes to point at, not to mention some major political leaders with a well-known history of treating women like meat.

Apparently the liberal rule is that if you make someone pay for those who want free abortions, anything else you do or say to women is forgiven.  We found that out in the 90s.  Again, I still remember how MoveOn.org was named.

I notice the Democrats aren&#039;t really running with this any more.  The Republicans are.

Just as an aside, it&#039;s funny how putting a small instrument in a vagina is &quot;rape,&quot; something similar to what is done for almost all routine exams, but shoving equipment all the way into a uterus to scrape and vaccuum out an unborn child is an inalienable right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This started when your side tried to force a religious organization to pay for something it shouldn&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>The provocation was deliberate.  Fluke, a long-time activist, entered that school by her own admission with the specific intent of throwing that monkey wrench.</p>
<p>In a desperate attempt to keep people from discussing the constitutional implications the Democrats started taking shots at Rush.</p>
<p>Then it turned out your side had a lot more media assholes to point at, not to mention some major political leaders with a well-known history of treating women like meat.</p>
<p>Apparently the liberal rule is that if you make someone pay for those who want free abortions, anything else you do or say to women is forgiven.  We found that out in the 90s.  Again, I still remember how MoveOn.org was named.</p>
<p>I notice the Democrats aren&#8217;t really running with this any more.  The Republicans are.</p>
<p>Just as an aside, it&#8217;s funny how putting a small instrument in a vagina is &#8220;rape,&#8221; something similar to what is done for almost all routine exams, but shoving equipment all the way into a uterus to scrape and vaccuum out an unborn child is an inalienable right.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12674</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 02:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The title to the OP is &quot;Obama and the war on women.&quot;  Not &quot;let&#039;s only talk about contraception.&quot;  You’ve probably missed this being so thoroughly immersed in the rightwing news bubble,  but the &quot;war on women&quot; phrase is about ALL the GOP attacks on women’s reproductive decisions and health, not just the astonishing and entertaining contraception debate.    

Now, we can talk about this issue in a broad way which will shine light on the entire issue, or we can go down the path of tiny little details of who has said what nastier things.  

How&#039;s this, you guys keep Rush and we&#039;ll keep Bill.  And we’ll all keep all our other nasty commentators and celebs.  End of that nonsense.  The focus should be on politicians who actually make the decisions.

The &quot;war on women&quot; is obviously a politically charged label, as is the &quot;war on religion.&quot;  The latter is utterly nonexistent and is part of the fictional Obama the rightwing news have created.  The former would better be called &quot;the war on women&#039;s reproductive decisions.&quot;  

Dozens of bills across the country are aimed at Planned Parenthood.  Forcing medically unnecessary transvaginal unltrasounds on women seeking abortions, as is the law in TX and almost was in VA, is rape by any definition.  This kind of legislation is happening all over the country.  It is a war on women&#039;s personal reproductive decisions.  The contraception issue is really the least of it, but also illustrates just how backward thinking your party is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The title to the OP is &#8220;Obama and the war on women.&#8221;  Not &#8220;let&#8217;s only talk about contraception.&#8221;  You’ve probably missed this being so thoroughly immersed in the rightwing news bubble,  but the &#8220;war on women&#8221; phrase is about ALL the GOP attacks on women’s reproductive decisions and health, not just the astonishing and entertaining contraception debate.    </p>
<p>Now, we can talk about this issue in a broad way which will shine light on the entire issue, or we can go down the path of tiny little details of who has said what nastier things.  </p>
<p>How&#8217;s this, you guys keep Rush and we&#8217;ll keep Bill.  And we’ll all keep all our other nasty commentators and celebs.  End of that nonsense.  The focus should be on politicians who actually make the decisions.</p>
<p>The &#8220;war on women&#8221; is obviously a politically charged label, as is the &#8220;war on religion.&#8221;  The latter is utterly nonexistent and is part of the fictional Obama the rightwing news have created.  The former would better be called &#8220;the war on women&#8217;s reproductive decisions.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Dozens of bills across the country are aimed at Planned Parenthood.  Forcing medically unnecessary transvaginal unltrasounds on women seeking abortions, as is the law in TX and almost was in VA, is rape by any definition.  This kind of legislation is happening all over the country.  It is a war on women&#8217;s personal reproductive decisions.  The contraception issue is really the least of it, but also illustrates just how backward thinking your party is.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12578</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 19:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TB sees it.  NOW doesn&#039;t see it, HRW doesn&#039;t, National Woman&#039;s Law Center doesn&#039;t, neither does AAUW.  

We know the Republicans killed the ERA, and wouldn&#039;t ratify the UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women.  It takes two/thirds to ratify, and the Republicans have blocked it.

Time to man up TB, you blew this one.  We all do from time to time and we can either die in our ditches and look foolish or admit we are wrong.  You won&#039;t disappear, or be less of a person.

On the other hand there are some kinds of people who simply cannot admit it.  Google that and see what comes up.

Anyway, we&#039;ve beat this one to death.  There is no Obama &quot;war on women&quot; except in minds of those who can concoct and believe anything at all which is convenient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TB sees it.  NOW doesn&#8217;t see it, HRW doesn&#8217;t, National Woman&#8217;s Law Center doesn&#8217;t, neither does AAUW.  </p>
<p>We know the Republicans killed the ERA, and wouldn&#8217;t ratify the UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women.  It takes two/thirds to ratify, and the Republicans have blocked it.</p>
<p>Time to man up TB, you blew this one.  We all do from time to time and we can either die in our ditches and look foolish or admit we are wrong.  You won&#8217;t disappear, or be less of a person.</p>
<p>On the other hand there are some kinds of people who simply cannot admit it.  Google that and see what comes up.</p>
<p>Anyway, we&#8217;ve beat this one to death.  There is no Obama &#8220;war on women&#8221; except in minds of those who can concoct and believe anything at all which is convenient.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12574</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 17:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Need a refill?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need a refill?</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12573</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 17:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re flailing.&lt;/p&gt;

As much as you and Bowser would like to haul the discussion off the road with you, this is the point:

The Democratic Party and liberals went into a well-organized high dither over a conservative showing &quot;disrespect&quot; for women, hoping to shift the political focus away from the original Constitutional issue, not to mention multiple failed Democratic policies.

Unfortunately for their plan, it turns out that Democrats and liberals have a very long history of misogynistic behavior themselves. Even now they are being chummy with (and taking campaign money from) people who are infamous for misogynism.

There have been many other examples put out there in the past couple of weeks, of which I put forth two, conveniently packed into one blog entry.  There are many more.

This conflict between the liberal moral position and their actions is what we call &quot;hypocrisy.&quot;

The Democratic Party and their media pals are now quietly backing away from this phony issue.  Obama is trying to kick this can into 2013 with his latest (Friday) &quot;accommodation.&quot;  Meanwhile the useful idiots remain, as usual, about two steps behind.

You can go back to squirting ink now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re flailing.</p>
<p>As much as you and Bowser would like to haul the discussion off the road with you, this is the point:</p>
<p>The Democratic Party and liberals went into a well-organized high dither over a conservative showing &#8220;disrespect&#8221; for women, hoping to shift the political focus away from the original Constitutional issue, not to mention multiple failed Democratic policies.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for their plan, it turns out that Democrats and liberals have a very long history of misogynistic behavior themselves. Even now they are being chummy with (and taking campaign money from) people who are infamous for misogynism.</p>
<p>There have been many other examples put out there in the past couple of weeks, of which I put forth two, conveniently packed into one blog entry.  There are many more.</p>
<p>This conflict between the liberal moral position and their actions is what we call &#8220;hypocrisy.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Democratic Party and their media pals are now quietly backing away from this phony issue.  Obama is trying to kick this can into 2013 with his latest (Friday) &#8220;accommodation.&#8221;  Meanwhile the useful idiots remain, as usual, about two steps behind.</p>
<p>You can go back to squirting ink now.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12572</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excuse me? This whole flap was about access to &lt;em&gt;contraception,&lt;/em&gt; not abortion, remember?&lt;/p&gt;

And specifically, about forcing religious organizations to provide contraception against their principles.

As much as the Left would like to blur the distinctions so they can quietly shove the rest of that camel into the tent, let&#039;s keep the discussion where it started.

The Democratic Party knows damn well that if this flap had been about forcing a religious organization to pay for actual abortions, the backfire would have blown them into next week.

Incidentally, if you want to discuss lies, maybe we can start a thread on how Obamacare was sold to pro-life Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me? This whole flap was about access to <em>contraception,</em> not abortion, remember?</p>
<p>And specifically, about forcing religious organizations to provide contraception against their principles.</p>
<p>As much as the Left would like to blur the distinctions so they can quietly shove the rest of that camel into the tent, let&#8217;s keep the discussion where it started.</p>
<p>The Democratic Party knows damn well that if this flap had been about forcing a religious organization to pay for actual abortions, the backfire would have blown them into next week.</p>
<p>Incidentally, if you want to discuss lies, maybe we can start a thread on how Obamacare was sold to pro-life Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12571</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is truly one of the most laughable talking points TB has tried to make in a while... and that is saying a lot!

Hard to believe he even can&#039;t see how utterly ridiculous the comparison is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is truly one of the most laughable talking points TB has tried to make in a while&#8230; and that is saying a lot!</p>
<p>Hard to believe he even can&#8217;t see how utterly ridiculous the comparison is.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12570</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 16:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stunning denial of reality!  Yes Tom, the Democrats have simply made up the fact that there have been dozens of anti-abortion bills in Congress since the 2010 elections.  It&#039;s a lie!  Those votes actually never happened.  It&#039;s a dem plot to point out that gop controlled state legislatures have moved to restrict abortion rights across the nation.  The contraceptive issue was not something championed by the right, the Dems forced the gop to bring it up!  

You are so deep  in the rightwing news feedback loop you can&#039;t see the reality outside that bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stunning denial of reality!  Yes Tom, the Democrats have simply made up the fact that there have been dozens of anti-abortion bills in Congress since the 2010 elections.  It&#8217;s a lie!  Those votes actually never happened.  It&#8217;s a dem plot to point out that gop controlled state legislatures have moved to restrict abortion rights across the nation.  The contraceptive issue was not something championed by the right, the Dems forced the gop to bring it up!  </p>
<p>You are so deep  in the rightwing news feedback loop you can&#8217;t see the reality outside that bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12565</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 05:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A drunk 27 y/o with a hand on a cardboard boob has completely scandalized these folks.  Evidence of a &quot;war on women&quot;.   War is not obscene, but that is.  Killing is just fine, collateral damage is just tough, but a guys hand on a cardboard boob is total moral collapse.

Ya have to laugh at their antics.  If they didn&#039;t have real guns they&#039;d be funniest little tykes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A drunk 27 y/o with a hand on a cardboard boob has completely scandalized these folks.  Evidence of a &#8220;war on women&#8221;.   War is not obscene, but that is.  Killing is just fine, collateral damage is just tough, but a guys hand on a cardboard boob is total moral collapse.</p>
<p>Ya have to laugh at their antics.  If they didn&#8217;t have real guns they&#8217;d be funniest little tykes!</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/16/obama-and-the-war-against-women/#comment-12564</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 05:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man up.</p>
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