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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/30/why-conservatives-dont-trust-scientists/#comment-13141</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Exactly&lt;/p&gt;

The fly in the liberal ointment is that humanity is a minor factor in the overall warming trend. Fair enough to argue that we should do what we can regardless, but the popular liberal meme is we are the primary culprit.

I am not an expert on what most liberals believe about Creationism, but it would be a ton of fun hearing a hundred liberal dems answer that question in a public forum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly</p>
<p>The fly in the liberal ointment is that humanity is a minor factor in the overall warming trend. Fair enough to argue that we should do what we can regardless, but the popular liberal meme is we are the primary culprit.</p>
<p>I am not an expert on what most liberals believe about Creationism, but it would be a ton of fun hearing a hundred liberal dems answer that question in a public forum</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/30/why-conservatives-dont-trust-scientists/#comment-13136</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It gets a little tricky though, doesn&#039;t it?&lt;/p&gt;

Nobody argues that the planet &lt;del datetime=&quot;2012-03-31T16:26:00+00:00&quot;&gt;is&lt;/del&gt; &lt;strong&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/strong&gt; warmer now than it was when the Little Ice Age ended.

What too many people consider an &quot;incontrovertible fact&quot; is that this is due to human activities, and that the only answer is more government power over our lives and economic activities, more wealth redistribution, and managed scarcity.  Which, by coincidence, is some people&#039;s solution for every problem society has.

The &quot;creationism&quot; thing is a straw man.  Belief in creationism in our society is largely a private matter.  Unlike the idea of human-caused global warming, creationism has no real effect on public policy, the economy, or state power.  Heck, liberals consider it the Fall of Civilization if a school district somewhere in the Southwest decides to teach the subject.

And, as a reminder, belief in some form of creationism is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/four-americans-believe-strict-creationism.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;not that rare in our country,&lt;/a&gt; and includes a considerable number of Giant-Brained Democrats.

Most of which went to public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gets a little tricky though, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Nobody argues that the planet <del datetime="2012-03-31T16:26:00+00:00">is</del> <strong>isn&#8217;t</strong> warmer now than it was when the Little Ice Age ended.</p>
<p>What too many people consider an &#8220;incontrovertible fact&#8221; is that this is due to human activities, and that the only answer is more government power over our lives and economic activities, more wealth redistribution, and managed scarcity.  Which, by coincidence, is some people&#8217;s solution for every problem society has.</p>
<p>The &#8220;creationism&#8221; thing is a straw man.  Belief in creationism in our society is largely a private matter.  Unlike the idea of human-caused global warming, creationism has no real effect on public policy, the economy, or state power.  Heck, liberals consider it the Fall of Civilization if a school district somewhere in the Southwest decides to teach the subject.</p>
<p>And, as a reminder, belief in some form of creationism is <a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/four-americans-believe-strict-creationism.aspx" rel="nofollow">not that rare in our country,</a> and includes a considerable number of Giant-Brained Democrats.</p>
<p>Most of which went to public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/30/why-conservatives-dont-trust-scientists/#comment-13133</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global warming is an incontrovertible fact. I believe this fact.

Any reasonable person will believe in evolution over creationism. I believe in evolution.

I consider myself more conservative than liberal as I define and understand the terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Global warming is an incontrovertible fact. I believe this fact.</p>
<p>Any reasonable person will believe in evolution over creationism. I believe in evolution.</p>
<p>I consider myself more conservative than liberal as I define and understand the terms.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/30/why-conservatives-dont-trust-scientists/#comment-13131</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this Thursday on&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.psypost.org/2012/03/conservatives-trust-in-science-has-fallen-dramatically-since-mid-1970s-10786&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; PsyPost&lt;/a&gt; and it bugged me a little bit. It specifically stated that conservative trust in science has fallen drastically.

I consider myself a conservative and I also trust science implicitly but as your citation suggests it is not science that is not trusted by me but those who use science. This is often scientists but non-scientists also misstate and misuse science .

The difference is indeed important, whether one is conservative or not.

Maybe I am not as conservative as the sample in the original paper and maybe I no longer pass the litmus test for being conservative in a conservative milieu that sometimes seems to be dominated by religious fundamentalists. 

As I have often said, neither side seems to suit me but I still find the classic liberal image more distasteful than than my personal image of conservatism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this Thursday on<a href="http://www.psypost.org/2012/03/conservatives-trust-in-science-has-fallen-dramatically-since-mid-1970s-10786" rel="nofollow"> PsyPost</a> and it bugged me a little bit. It specifically stated that conservative trust in science has fallen drastically.</p>
<p>I consider myself a conservative and I also trust science implicitly but as your citation suggests it is not science that is not trusted by me but those who use science. This is often scientists but non-scientists also misstate and misuse science .</p>
<p>The difference is indeed important, whether one is conservative or not.</p>
<p>Maybe I am not as conservative as the sample in the original paper and maybe I no longer pass the litmus test for being conservative in a conservative milieu that sometimes seems to be dominated by religious fundamentalists. </p>
<p>As I have often said, neither side seems to suit me but I still find the classic liberal image more distasteful than than my personal image of conservatism</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/03/30/why-conservatives-dont-trust-scientists/#comment-13130</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 04:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A distinction without a meaning.  People gauge &quot;scientist&quot; by the &quot;science&quot; he or she does.

Conservatives have beliefs into which they force their world.  Anthropromorphic global warming is one.  Proven beyond a doubt.  

However, they don&#039;t want to believe it, and the oil companies will reinforce that belief with high-dollar propaganda, and bingo - it doesn&#039;t exist.  (Solving the problem might impact their life-style a bit.)

Evolution is a great one.  Much evidence for it.  Creationism - no evidence for it.  Not a whit!  Nothing.  A bunch of &quot;begats&quot; in an old book.  Conservatives will believe in Creationism because there isn&#039;t enough evidence for evolution.

Go figure.  What is characteristic of these people is that if they don&#039;t understand it then it doesn&#039;t exist.  And Conservatives understand so little.  So very little.  Including themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A distinction without a meaning.  People gauge &#8220;scientist&#8221; by the &#8220;science&#8221; he or she does.</p>
<p>Conservatives have beliefs into which they force their world.  Anthropromorphic global warming is one.  Proven beyond a doubt.  </p>
<p>However, they don&#8217;t want to believe it, and the oil companies will reinforce that belief with high-dollar propaganda, and bingo &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t exist.  (Solving the problem might impact their life-style a bit.)</p>
<p>Evolution is a great one.  Much evidence for it.  Creationism &#8211; no evidence for it.  Not a whit!  Nothing.  A bunch of &#8220;begats&#8221; in an old book.  Conservatives will believe in Creationism because there isn&#8217;t enough evidence for evolution.</p>
<p>Go figure.  What is characteristic of these people is that if they don&#8217;t understand it then it doesn&#8217;t exist.  And Conservatives understand so little.  So very little.  Including themselves.</p>
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