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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Will no one rid me of this turbulent branch of government?&#8221; (continued)</title>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13248</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve watched the Republican primaries, the Tea Party screw it right into the ground.  And you say the liberals are lost.

We as a country are still suffering from the lives lost for nothing under Bush.  The trillion dollar surplus wasted and several trillion more wasted after that.  The US move from the moral high ground into a moral abyss.  The Constitution ignored, the Supreme Court ignored and the Legislature ignored even though it was Republican.

I can see why you&#039;d want to forget it.

And, I can understand why Obama may be fond of FDR.  Each of them inherited a country in the midst of a Republican financial disaster.  And each of them can get frustrated with those people who caused the disaster not wanting to help work out of it.

Some folks know no shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve watched the Republican primaries, the Tea Party screw it right into the ground.  And you say the liberals are lost.</p>
<p>We as a country are still suffering from the lives lost for nothing under Bush.  The trillion dollar surplus wasted and several trillion more wasted after that.  The US move from the moral high ground into a moral abyss.  The Constitution ignored, the Supreme Court ignored and the Legislature ignored even though it was Republican.</p>
<p>I can see why you&#8217;d want to forget it.</p>
<p>And, I can understand why Obama may be fond of FDR.  Each of them inherited a country in the midst of a Republican financial disaster.  And each of them can get frustrated with those people who caused the disaster not wanting to help work out of it.</p>
<p>Some folks know no shame.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13247</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re really a lot more comfortable back in 2006 than you are in the present day, aren&#039;t you?&lt;/p&gt;

Take some comfort that you aren&#039;t the only liberal lost at sea right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re really a lot more comfortable back in 2006 than you are in the present day, aren&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Take some comfort that you aren&#8217;t the only liberal lost at sea right now.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13246</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Supreme Court had ruled it illegal before Bush and Cheney did it.  There was no doubt.  It had been decided.

It wasn&#039;t as if there were a question.  There was none.

Which makes it more egregious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Supreme Court had ruled it illegal before Bush and Cheney did it.  There was no doubt.  It had been decided.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t as if there were a question.  There was none.</p>
<p>Which makes it more egregious.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13243</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 03:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In other words, no case was ever brought before the Supreme Court.&lt;/p&gt;

Didn&#039;t even make it past the Sixth Circuit court.

You might want to check on what the current Justice Department is doing in this arena.

Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/holders-defense-warrantless-wiretapping&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;one article.&lt;/a&gt;

Are the Democrats going to try to haul Holder in front of the courts now?  Maybe impeach Obama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other words, no case was ever brought before the Supreme Court.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t even make it past the Sixth Circuit court.</p>
<p>You might want to check on what the current Justice Department is doing in this arena.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/holders-defense-warrantless-wiretapping" rel="nofollow">one article.</a></p>
<p>Are the Democrats going to try to haul Holder in front of the courts now?  Maybe impeach Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13240</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 01:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Responses to the Government&#039;s Defense of National Security Agency Warrantless Wiretaps&quot;

&quot;In fact, the Supreme Court has never upheld warrantless wiretapping within the United States, for any purpose. In the landmark ruling of Katz v. United States (1967), the Supreme Court held that the Fourth Amendment applied to telephone calls, and that probable cause and a warrant are required before electronic surveillance of such communications may be conducted. And in a previously cited decision (United States v. United States District Court, 1972), the Supreme Court specifically rejected the argument that domestic security concerns justify warrantless wiretapping.&quot;

http://www.bordc.org/threats/nsamyths.php#Supreme</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Responses to the Government&#8217;s Defense of National Security Agency Warrantless Wiretaps&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, the Supreme Court has never upheld warrantless wiretapping within the United States, for any purpose. In the landmark ruling of Katz v. United States (1967), the Supreme Court held that the Fourth Amendment applied to telephone calls, and that probable cause and a warrant are required before electronic surveillance of such communications may be conducted. And in a previously cited decision (United States v. United States District Court, 1972), the Supreme Court specifically rejected the argument that domestic security concerns justify warrantless wiretapping.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bordc.org/threats/nsamyths.php#Supreme" rel="nofollow">http://www.bordc.org/threats/nsamyths.php#Supreme</a></p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13234</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 22:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which case was that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which case was that?</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13232</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember when Bush and Cheney did things anyway, and the hell with the Supreme Court?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember when Bush and Cheney did things anyway, and the hell with the Supreme Court?</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13231</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kind of interesting how anything not Conservative is communist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of interesting how anything not Conservative is communist.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13225</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 19:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s kind of interesting how &quot;not socialist&quot; is now &quot;radical.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

Remember when it used to be the other way around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of interesting how &#8220;not socialist&#8221; is now &#8220;radical.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remember when it used to be the other way around?</p>
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		<title>By: VelociraptorBlade</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/04/03/will-no-one-rid-me-of-this-turbulent-branch-of-government-continued/#comment-13221</link>
		<dc:creator>VelociraptorBlade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the &quot;Radical Republican&quot; congress of the past has shown me anything, it&#039;s that any process for choosing an elected can be easily twisted and abused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the &#8220;Radical Republican&#8221; congress of the past has shown me anything, it&#8217;s that any process for choosing an elected can be easily twisted and abused.</p>
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