And it is not a way to breed poor out of the system. Even while I said I was not in favor of poverty, as Mary Ann apparently is.

I understand many are against abortion, regarding it as murder. I believe that argument is as moronic as is Mary Ann’s.

And I believe Christians should try to live their lives according to the New Testament and leave other people alone. They do well at neither.

I remember when Mary Ann had a fit when I suggested that people should prove they were financially competent to have a child. She accused me of wanting to breed the poor out of the system.

That’s exactly what planned parenthood is doing. They are eugenics practitioners. DO I SUPPORT THEM? YES. Do they need government assistance? Better ask Mary Ann(e).

My point is, It’s perfectly legitimate to object to government funding.

All socio-economic classes have abortions.

Those which can’t afford them have them provided by others.

It is in the interests of the greater society that children whose needs will not be met not be born. It is in the interests of society that children who have their emotional and physical needs met be born.

Forcing people to have unwanted children is a cruelty upon the parents and the child, a cruelty particularly practiced by Christians. I don’t like cruelty.

ER below succinctly describes the punishment aspect of Christianity, a pervasive trait. Do you think children should be punished for the “sins” of their parents? Do you promote cruelty inflicted upon these people because of their parents? Unfortunately Christians in the US appear to delight in that. After all, their parents should have behaved differently.

People opposing abortions object to it on moral or fiscal grounds, likely both. But I can’t imagine my assessment as unique.

Using federal revenue to fund abortion amounts to a collective approval and if people don’t want to be lumped in with the pro-choice voices that are in control, they are free to use the law themselves to fight back.

Why do you insist on calling abortion as practiced by poor people as class warfare?

Because I don’t believe it is practice by poor people. Put simply, it’s practiced “ON” poor people by a government backed institution.

Read a little about the history of planned parenthood if you haven’t already. The truth about it’s founder, Margret Sanger, is somewhere between the negative exaggeration and the sugarcoat.

There has to be some agenda here I don’t see. Making an abortion a matter of class doesn’t explain why middle-class people get abortions, either. Is that part of the class-warfare conspiracy, too?

As far as government funding goes, it’s clearly and obviously for the same reason there are food stamps. People can’t afford an abortion or food without assistance.

A child needs the care of loving parents with the desire for that child and the emotional resources to provide for it. It needs love, care, and people who will put aside their own desires for the welfare of that child. When I child doesn’t get love and respect it grows up miserable, a living, breeding cancer in society, without the wherewithal to raise children themselves. For every anecdote regarding a kid which grew up well in those conditions there are 100 or 200 who didn’t.

Nope. Every kid deserves to be wanted. Unfortunately the process of reproduction assumes that from people who can’t deliver.

No one “likes” abortion. However, no one wants others to tell them to raise an unwanted child which will not have it’s needs met.

From Google News: “Arizona bans funding to Planned Parenthood”

A little different no?

You don’t need to be a Christian to struggle with the reality of abortion. And a reasonable person should question whether tax payers should fund them.

I remember when Mary Ann had a fit when I suggested that people should prove they were financially competent to have a child. She accused me of wanting to breed the poor out of the system.

That’s exactly what planned parenthood is doing. They are eugenics practitioners. Do I support them? Yes. Do they need government assistance? Better ask Mary Ann(e).