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	<title>Comments on: Resurrecting Willy Loman</title>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/05/23/resurrecting-willy-loman/#comment-15293</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 18:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure that an argument between car partisans on a board about selling cars is necessarily a bad thing. Flame wars engage people, some to participate, even more to watch. Looking at it like the cold-blooded marketeer I once was for part of my career, controversy sounds good to me.

A lot depends on the paid spokesperson. We know alpha forum personalities who can dominate a board and love to squash hecklers and take on all comers. (That does sound like TB, doesn&#039;t it? I&#039;ll bet he&#039;d make a great forum salesman for certain kinds of things. Like the books of Ayn Rand.) The ultimate forum-salesperson type is somebody who can use the hecklers and trolls as foils to come out of it looking even better to the audience. Which is what I mean when I go on about the personal nature of this kind of selling. Mano-a-mano living on your wits. That seems inherently more honest than selling by advertising, don&#039;t ya think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that an argument between car partisans on a board about selling cars is necessarily a bad thing. Flame wars engage people, some to participate, even more to watch. Looking at it like the cold-blooded marketeer I once was for part of my career, controversy sounds good to me.</p>
<p>A lot depends on the paid spokesperson. We know alpha forum personalities who can dominate a board and love to squash hecklers and take on all comers. (That does sound like TB, doesn&#8217;t it? I&#8217;ll bet he&#8217;d make a great forum salesman for certain kinds of things. Like the books of Ayn Rand.) The ultimate forum-salesperson type is somebody who can use the hecklers and trolls as foils to come out of it looking even better to the audience. Which is what I mean when I go on about the personal nature of this kind of selling. Mano-a-mano living on your wits. That seems inherently more honest than selling by advertising, don&#8217;t ya think?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/05/23/resurrecting-willy-loman/#comment-15292</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 18:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m one of those people who doesn&#039;t enjoy shopping and being hassled by salespeople, I know that my attitude is far from universal. I&#039;ve watched in awe as three generations of the women in my family conspired to mug a clothing store, and roll over hapless clerks like Sherman marching through Atlanta. Some people are just natural shoppers.

It&#039;s that bazaar thing. Americans have gotten out of practice playing the game with shopkeepers and merchants, because for decades most selling&#039;s been done at arm&#039;s length through advertising. But we still enjoy it when we go overseas and haggle with souvenir sellers and other real merchants. I think that a lot of people who&#039;ve become couch potato consumers, passively absorbing electronic sales pitches, might wake up and start to groove on playing the game with other living breathing people.

And they&#039;ll give the salespukes something to do and keep &#039;em out of the hair of the rest of us. That&#039;s my idea of utopia. But your mileage my differ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m one of those people who doesn&#8217;t enjoy shopping and being hassled by salespeople, I know that my attitude is far from universal. I&#8217;ve watched in awe as three generations of the women in my family conspired to mug a clothing store, and roll over hapless clerks like Sherman marching through Atlanta. Some people are just natural shoppers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that bazaar thing. Americans have gotten out of practice playing the game with shopkeepers and merchants, because for decades most selling&#8217;s been done at arm&#8217;s length through advertising. But we still enjoy it when we go overseas and haggle with souvenir sellers and other real merchants. I think that a lot of people who&#8217;ve become couch potato consumers, passively absorbing electronic sales pitches, might wake up and start to groove on playing the game with other living breathing people.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;ll give the salespukes something to do and keep &#8216;em out of the hair of the rest of us. That&#8217;s my idea of utopia. But your mileage my differ.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/05/23/resurrecting-willy-loman/#comment-15287</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 10:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s not to like? Nothing, but well liked, I&#039;m not sure?  :^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s not to like? Nothing, but well liked, I&#8217;m not sure?  :^)</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/05/23/resurrecting-willy-loman/#comment-15282</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 06:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is assembling a &quot;quorum&quot;, a number of people interested in interacting with the salesman at the same time.  There are similar things in customer service chat services, but that&#039;s one on one and not with a salesman.

Another issue is that people tend to be rude on those things.  I can see a Chevrolet partisan calling a Ford salesman something pretty bad.

I don&#039;t think it would work, and I think it&#039;s a good idea.  No one would have to go there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is assembling a &#8220;quorum&#8221;, a number of people interested in interacting with the salesman at the same time.  There are similar things in customer service chat services, but that&#8217;s one on one and not with a salesman.</p>
<p>Another issue is that people tend to be rude on those things.  I can see a Chevrolet partisan calling a Ford salesman something pretty bad.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it would work, and I think it&#8217;s a good idea.  No one would have to go there.</p>
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