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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/05/another-shooting-wisconsin-seven-dead/#comment-17124</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fellow had only ONE handgun, a semi-automatic pistol.  He purchased that legally, despite being as deranged as yer average NRA member.  He wasn&#039;t out to harm innocent folks.

He could has seen an member of al-Qaeda and tried to protect people.  We don&#039;t know what happened.  We do know he was performing his civic duty and carrying a gun and we do know there are evil people out there from whom the rest of us need protection.

Mistakes can happen in the defense of freedom.  We need to give this law-abiding, vigilant citizen the benefit of the doubt and commend him for his sacrifice.  This country would be a safer place if more people carried guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fellow had only ONE handgun, a semi-automatic pistol.  He purchased that legally, despite being as deranged as yer average NRA member.  He wasn&#8217;t out to harm innocent folks.</p>
<p>He could has seen an member of al-Qaeda and tried to protect people.  We don&#8217;t know what happened.  We do know he was performing his civic duty and carrying a gun and we do know there are evil people out there from whom the rest of us need protection.</p>
<p>Mistakes can happen in the defense of freedom.  We need to give this law-abiding, vigilant citizen the benefit of the doubt and commend him for his sacrifice.  This country would be a safer place if more people carried guns.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/05/another-shooting-wisconsin-seven-dead/#comment-17123</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holding someone underwater doesn&#039;t kill people.  Lack of oxygen kills people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holding someone underwater doesn&#8217;t kill people.  Lack of oxygen kills people.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/05/another-shooting-wisconsin-seven-dead/#comment-17116</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earthquakes don&#039;t kill people.  Falling masonry kills people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earthquakes don&#8217;t kill people.  Falling masonry kills people.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/05/another-shooting-wisconsin-seven-dead/#comment-17112</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, I know.  There are nail guns and staple guns.  But they don&#039;t drive nails or staples, either.  Carpenters drive nails and staples.

But let&#039;s take away the hammer or nail gun or staple gun and see how well that carpenter can do it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, I know.  There are nail guns and staple guns.  But they don&#8217;t drive nails or staples, either.  Carpenters drive nails and staples.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s take away the hammer or nail gun or staple gun and see how well that carpenter can do it!</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The brakeman and the engineer were drinking wine and eating brie&quot;.

Its funny how I know &lt;em&gt;exactly&lt;/em&gt; what he&#039;s talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The brakeman and the engineer were drinking wine and eating brie&#8221;.</p>
<p>Its funny how I know <em>exactly</em> what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we ponder new laws to curtail violence, maybe we should consider ways to remove scum-bags like this before they gin up the nerve to act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we ponder new laws to curtail violence, maybe we should consider ways to remove scum-bags like this before they gin up the nerve to act.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/us/army-veteran-identified-as-suspect-in-wisconsin-shooting.html?pagewanted=all&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;-neo-nazi-&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;OAK CREEK, Wis. — The suspect in the shooting rampage that left six people dead and three wounded at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin on Sunday has been identified as Wade Michael Page, law enforcement officials announced on Monday.

Officials at the Southern Poverty Law Center said they had been tracking Mr. Page for about a decade because of his ties to the white supremacist movement and described him as a “a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/us/army-veteran-identified-as-suspect-in-wisconsin-shooting.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">-neo-nazi-</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;OAK CREEK, Wis. — The suspect in the shooting rampage that left six people dead and three wounded at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin on Sunday has been identified as Wade Michael Page, law enforcement officials announced on Monday.</p>
<p>Officials at the Southern Poverty Law Center said they had been tracking Mr. Page for about a decade because of his ties to the white supremacist movement and described him as a “a frustrated neo-Nazi who had been the leader of a racist white-power band.”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &quot;Guns don&#039;t kill people, people kill people&quot; is accurate, let&#039;s save a whole lot of money by sending our troops to Iraq and Afghanistan with just some leather gloves, maybe.  Would save big dollars and we could test the NRA mantra for accuracy.

I think they&#039;d find that people with guns kill people.  

But of course now is not the time, in the midst of grieving over several slaughters, to discuss the issue.  Too emotional.  Should wait at least a week after the last multiple murder by gunfire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;Guns don&#8217;t kill people, people kill people&#8221; is accurate, let&#8217;s save a whole lot of money by sending our troops to Iraq and Afghanistan with just some leather gloves, maybe.  Would save big dollars and we could test the NRA mantra for accuracy.</p>
<p>I think they&#8217;d find that people with guns kill people.  </p>
<p>But of course now is not the time, in the midst of grieving over several slaughters, to discuss the issue.  Too emotional.  Should wait at least a week after the last multiple murder by gunfire.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/05/another-shooting-wisconsin-seven-dead/#comment-17075</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NRA and its allies use that kind of rhetoric to try to intimidate people out of discussing the issue while it&#039;s relevant. If we wait for some unspecified &quot;decent interval&quot;, the issue is no longer timely and nobody is interested in discussing it. They win. Lather rinse repeat--we keep falling for it.

My first thought when I saw the headline about the shooting was that some yahoo mistook their turbans as signifying that they&#039;re Muslims...&lt;i&gt;again&lt;/i&gt;, and that&#039;s the shameful thing. Stupidity and ignorance piled atop bigotry, the whole steaming pile enabled by the &quot;Rocky Racoon gun culture&quot;. I reserved judgment, bearing in mind that the Sikhs are known for taking honor to extreme ends, but the only reports I&#039;ve seen so far do label it &quot;domestic terrorism&quot;. I fear the worst.

&quot;Rocky Racoon gun culture&quot; is apt. For another musical take on it, check out Robert Earl Keen&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz47SXpbYdw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Whenever Kindness Fails&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRA and its allies use that kind of rhetoric to try to intimidate people out of discussing the issue while it&#8217;s relevant. If we wait for some unspecified &#8220;decent interval&#8221;, the issue is no longer timely and nobody is interested in discussing it. They win. Lather rinse repeat&#8211;we keep falling for it.</p>
<p>My first thought when I saw the headline about the shooting was that some yahoo mistook their turbans as signifying that they&#8217;re Muslims&#8230;<i>again</i>, and that&#8217;s the shameful thing. Stupidity and ignorance piled atop bigotry, the whole steaming pile enabled by the &#8220;Rocky Racoon gun culture&#8221;. I reserved judgment, bearing in mind that the Sikhs are known for taking honor to extreme ends, but the only reports I&#8217;ve seen so far do label it &#8220;domestic terrorism&#8221;. I fear the worst.</p>
<p>&#8220;Rocky Racoon gun culture&#8221; is apt. For another musical take on it, check out Robert Earl Keen&#8217;s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz47SXpbYdw" rel="nofollow">Whenever Kindness Fails</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/05/another-shooting-wisconsin-seven-dead/#comment-17072</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 03:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last time we had a mass killing, (a few weeks ago?), someone expressed a fear that gun control advocates might use the occasion to point out how totally fucked up our Rocky Raccoon gun culture was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time we had a mass killing, (a few weeks ago?), someone expressed a fear that gun control advocates might use the occasion to point out how totally fucked up our Rocky Raccoon gun culture was.</p>
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