Comments on: And so it begins… https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/ Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:41:18 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17750 bowser Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:06:04 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17750 On many, many issues where Republican officials deny the charges even though victims have come forth, there are pictures, witnesses who would be treated harshly if named, where the world knows the truth, Conservatives will say that there is no credible evidence. Bush lying, Bush denying the US tortures people, and on and on and on. By those standards there is no evidence that is not a finger. You know it, I know it, but Conservatives will demand a Martian show up missing a finger before they can consider it. At least by historical standards. As I said, a cheap shot, one which shouldn't have been taken, and accurate. On many, many issues where Republican officials deny the charges even though victims have come forth, there are pictures, witnesses who would be treated harshly if named, where the world knows the truth, Conservatives will say that there is no credible evidence. Bush lying, Bush denying the US tortures people, and on and on and on.

By those standards there is no evidence that is not a finger. You know it, I know it, but Conservatives will demand a Martian show up missing a finger before they can consider it. At least by historical standards.

As I said, a cheap shot, one which shouldn’t have been taken, and accurate.

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17695 podrock Sat, 25 Aug 2012 22:32:13 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17695 10. It's a rock. 9. It's a rock. 8. It's a rock. 7. It's a rock. 6. It's a rock. 5. It's a rock. 4. It's a rock. 3. It's a rock. 2. It's a rock. And... 1. It's a rock. 10. It’s a rock.
9. It’s a rock.
8. It’s a rock.
7. It’s a rock.
6. It’s a rock.
5. It’s a rock.
4. It’s a rock.
3. It’s a rock.
2. It’s a rock.

And…

1. It’s a rock.

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17694 ER Sat, 25 Aug 2012 22:24:43 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17694 The problem with anomalists, is that their beliefs, their methods, and <em>especially</em> their motivations, are obvious to everyone except the anomalists themselves. The problem with anomalists, is that their beliefs, their methods, and especially their motivations, are obvious to everyone except the anomalists themselves.

]]> By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17692 bowser Sat, 25 Aug 2012 20:36:08 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17692 How do you know? Have you ever been there? Has your source ever been there? Have they seen for themselves, touched it, checked for fingerprints? Or are they just guessing, just saying that simply because no one has ever claimed to see a human finger there before that there isn't one? I'll bet there are alternative news sources with access to data which the mainstream will NOT publicize which will claim it's a human finger. Remember, you don't read it all on MSNBC, not by a long shot. The mainstream media is simply a big shill for what "they" want you to know. Some of us have done a lot of research in this area, know our sources, and keep an open mind. We do not let "them" rule our minds, we decide for ourselves. We won't know if that's a human finger until someone credible can examine it. Believe what you see for yourself, not what is interpreted by others, mixed with sugar, and fed you for breakfast. There's a story behind that sole human finger, the middle finger of the left hand, how that finger got torn off by a very angry Martian familiar with Western Earth culture and how it got left outside the cave. How do you know?
Have you ever been there? Has your source ever been there? Have they seen for themselves, touched it, checked for fingerprints?

Or are they just guessing, just saying that simply because no one has ever claimed to see a human finger there before that there isn’t one?

I’ll bet there are alternative news sources with access to data which the mainstream will NOT publicize which will claim it’s a human finger. Remember, you don’t read it all on MSNBC, not by a long shot. The mainstream media is simply a big shill for what “they” want you to know.

Some of us have done a lot of research in this area, know our sources, and keep an open mind. We do not let “them” rule our minds, we decide for ourselves. We won’t know if that’s a human finger until someone credible can examine it.

Believe what you see for yourself, not what is interpreted by others, mixed with sugar, and fed you for breakfast.

There’s a story behind that sole human finger, the middle finger of the left hand, how that finger got torn off by a very angry Martian familiar with Western Earth culture and how it got left outside the cave.

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17690 ER Sat, 25 Aug 2012 20:26:27 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17690 No doubt about it. But we never know ahead of time which of those things they are. I saw a rock in those pictures that looked exactly like a fish. Of course, I knew without a doubt it wasn't a fish, but not because of the data in the image, but because of the context in which it was taken, and because of what I already know about fish and Mars. And it always isn't as easy as fish and fingers and faces, is it? And sometimes its a lot more compelling... "Some things are true no matter how badly some people don’t want them to be." Indeed. <img src="http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaicenews/20111004_Figure3_thumb.png" alt="." /> Truth is not binary, its statistical. The September, 2012 graph will be released in October. I can't wait. No doubt about it. But we never know ahead of time which of those things they are.

I saw a rock in those pictures that looked exactly like a fish. Of course, I knew without a doubt it wasn’t a fish, but not because of the data in the image, but because of the context in which it was taken, and because of what I already know about fish and Mars.

And it always isn’t as easy as fish and fingers and faces, is it? And sometimes its a lot more compelling…

“Some things are true no matter how badly some people don’t want them to be.” Indeed.

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Truth is not binary, its statistical.
The September, 2012 graph will be released in October. I can’t wait.

]]> By: TB https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17688 TB Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:29:22 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17688 <p>I would bet my life on that not being a real human finger.</p> If a billion people voted that it was a real human finger, I would still take the bet. Some things are true no matter how badly some people don't want them to be. When closeup photos unquestionably proved the "Face on Mars" to be a natural object, the response of much of the anomalist community was highly instructive. I would bet my life on that not being a real human finger.

If a billion people voted that it was a real human finger, I would still take the bet.

Some things are true no matter how badly some people don’t want them to be.

When closeup photos unquestionably proved the “Face on Mars” to be a natural object, the response of much of the anomalist community was highly instructive.

]]> By: Jody https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17684 Jody Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:55:11 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17684 Basically....everyone perverts what is. Count on it. Plan on it. Deal with it. ...and that's the truth.....*raspberries* Basically….everyone perverts what is. Count on it. Plan on it. Deal with it.

…and that’s the truth…..*raspberries*

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17683 ER Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:46:58 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17683 Sounds like "famous last words", to me. Sounds like “famous last words”, to me.

]]> By: Jody https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17682 Jody Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:37:16 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17682 LMAO!!!...and that darlin' is a publicly held opinion. Yep...I got it...and what I got was...whatever floats your boat. I really don't care anymore. I find it all fascinating just observing everyone. Actually I am becoming a soft cynic....my word....I don't know the whys and wherefores...but it seems that I just let the silliness fly and hover...I have my own agenda with my own reality...and that is subjective as hell...which by the way is here on earth...but that is for another time and another place to pontificate. I don't care what people do to the Mars pictures. Hell Marvin the Martian lives in a town home there. LMAO!!!…and that darlin’ is a publicly held opinion. Yep…I got it…and what I got was…whatever floats your boat. I really don’t care anymore. I find it all fascinating just observing everyone.

Actually I am becoming a soft cynic….my word….I don’t know the whys and wherefores…but it seems that I just let the silliness fly and hover…I have my own agenda with my own reality…and that is subjective as hell…which by the way is here on earth…but that is for another time and another place to pontificate.

I don’t care what people do to the Mars pictures. Hell Marvin the Martian lives in a town home there.

]]> By: TB https://habitablezone.com/2012/08/25/and-so-it-begins/#comment-17680 TB Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:17:03 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=20730#comment-17680 Heh. Heh.

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