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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m wondering if we&#8217;ll have a repeat of Bush-Cheney re lies.</title>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/02/im-wondering-if-well-have-a-repeat-of-bush-cheney-re-lies/#comment-18012</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 02:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you&#039;ve done is assert that you&#039;ve made a point.  Make your point or shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you&#8217;ve done is assert that you&#8217;ve made a point.  Make your point or shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/02/im-wondering-if-well-have-a-repeat-of-bush-cheney-re-lies/#comment-18008</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your political mind is irrelevant, you are a robot, the perfect follower, my leaders cannot be wrong or false.  Going back to Nixon the Republican politicians on a national scale have been scumbags, liars, stealers, cheats and you have glorified and worshipped them all.

Without a qualm, without a doubt, without a thought.

That&#039;s not a good brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your political mind is irrelevant, you are a robot, the perfect follower, my leaders cannot be wrong or false.  Going back to Nixon the Republican politicians on a national scale have been scumbags, liars, stealers, cheats and you have glorified and worshipped them all.</p>
<p>Without a qualm, without a doubt, without a thought.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a good brain.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/02/im-wondering-if-well-have-a-repeat-of-bush-cheney-re-lies/#comment-18006</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not wasting my time any more laying out detailed research for people who don&#039;t even bother with the links.

My own response to a statement like I made would be to check it out myself before I did anything else.  The references aren&#039;t hard to find.  Try searching Biden along with &quot;drunk driver.&quot; &quot;Plagiarism.&quot; &quot;academic record.&quot;  Or keep it simple with just &quot;lies.&quot;

Remember, the bar here has now been officially set that the most trivial lie shows a &quot;pattern of mendacity.&quot;

Again, it&#039;s very instructive that you had no idea what I was talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not wasting my time any more laying out detailed research for people who don&#8217;t even bother with the links.</p>
<p>My own response to a statement like I made would be to check it out myself before I did anything else.  The references aren&#8217;t hard to find.  Try searching Biden along with &#8220;drunk driver.&#8221; &#8220;Plagiarism.&#8221; &#8220;academic record.&#8221;  Or keep it simple with just &#8220;lies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remember, the bar here has now been officially set that the most trivial lie shows a &#8220;pattern of mendacity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s very instructive that you had no idea what I was talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/02/im-wondering-if-well-have-a-repeat-of-bush-cheney-re-lies/#comment-18005</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My chin is out.  Go ahead make my day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My chin is out.  Go ahead make my day.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/02/im-wondering-if-well-have-a-repeat-of-bush-cheney-re-lies/#comment-18004</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 22:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lies are about the issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lies are about the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/02/im-wondering-if-well-have-a-repeat-of-bush-cheney-re-lies/#comment-18002</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 21:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting.&lt;/p&gt;

I assume the same amnesia is afflicting all the liberals here, or they wouldn&#039;t be hanging their chins out this far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.</p>
<p>I assume the same amnesia is afflicting all the liberals here, or they wouldn&#8217;t be hanging their chins out this far.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/02/im-wondering-if-well-have-a-repeat-of-bush-cheney-re-lies/#comment-18001</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re still trying to actually think about this.&lt;/p&gt;

The call has gone out to the party faithful  and the useful idiots that the Word of the Day for the current campaign will be &quot;lies.&quot;  Whether they are actually lies or not is completely irrelevant.  If you examine their explanations, they fall apart quite easily (&quot;Obama isn&#039;t cutting Medicare benefits to seniors, just Medicare payments to providers.&quot;  What the hell do they think Medicare benefits &lt;em&gt;are?&lt;/em&gt;)  No, it&#039;s enough that they just keep repeating &quot;lies!&quot; often and loudly.

There&#039;s no rational response to this approach.  But as long as people keep trying to parse this shitstorm, they won&#039;t be discussing Obama&#039;s record.  If a Republican president was running for re-election on the current economic statistics, every Democrat alive would be demanding he be drawn and quartered.

Watch what happens at their convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re still trying to actually think about this.</p>
<p>The call has gone out to the party faithful  and the useful idiots that the Word of the Day for the current campaign will be &#8220;lies.&#8221;  Whether they are actually lies or not is completely irrelevant.  If you examine their explanations, they fall apart quite easily (&#8220;Obama isn&#8217;t cutting Medicare benefits to seniors, just Medicare payments to providers.&#8221;  What the hell do they think Medicare benefits <em>are?</em>)  No, it&#8217;s enough that they just keep repeating &#8220;lies!&#8221; often and loudly.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no rational response to this approach.  But as long as people keep trying to parse this shitstorm, they won&#8217;t be discussing Obama&#8217;s record.  If a Republican president was running for re-election on the current economic statistics, every Democrat alive would be demanding he be drawn and quartered.</p>
<p>Watch what happens at their convention.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy lied about something inconsequential.  THAT was the point.  There are other, bigger, more substantive lies out there from this guy, I just pointed out one which only a compulsive liar would lie about.

As far as me and Clinton, I wanted him out of there because he was morally unfit and to give Gore a head start.  But your statement is a perfect example of believing something ONLY because you want to.  No facts, no data, in fact all of the information ever available pointed in the opposite direction, but you believed what you wanted to.  Despite the reality.

Good lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy lied about something inconsequential.  THAT was the point.  There are other, bigger, more substantive lies out there from this guy, I just pointed out one which only a compulsive liar would lie about.</p>
<p>As far as me and Clinton, I wanted him out of there because he was morally unfit and to give Gore a head start.  But your statement is a perfect example of believing something ONLY because you want to.  No facts, no data, in fact all of the information ever available pointed in the opposite direction, but you believed what you wanted to.  Despite the reality.</p>
<p>Good lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/02/im-wondering-if-well-have-a-repeat-of-bush-cheney-re-lies/#comment-17999</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 20:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Misinformed&quot;

&quot;I just assumed Obama scheduled the speech for that location because the plant was threatened.&quot;

You were misinformed by yourself making things up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Misinformed&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I just assumed Obama scheduled the speech for that location because the plant was threatened.&#8221;</p>
<p>You were misinformed by yourself making things up?</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/02/im-wondering-if-well-have-a-repeat-of-bush-cheney-re-lies/#comment-17998</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defending a lie is not the same as agreeing that a lie is grounds for impeachment.  &quot;High crimes and misdemeanors&quot; means what it means (which we, no doubt, still disagree on).  But it is a debatable legal point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defending a lie is not the same as agreeing that a lie is grounds for impeachment.  &#8220;High crimes and misdemeanors&#8221; means what it means (which we, no doubt, still disagree on).  But it is a debatable legal point.</p>
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