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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/13/this-does-not-represent-us/#comment-18288</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 05:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/19-more-photos-of-libyans-apologizing-for-american?utm_campaign=socialflow&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_medium=buzzfeed&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;At buzzfeed.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/19-more-photos-of-libyans-apologizing-for-american?utm_campaign=socialflow&#038;utm_source=twitter&#038;utm_medium=buzzfeed" rel="nofollow">At buzzfeed.</a></p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/13/this-does-not-represent-us/#comment-18286</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or possibly &quot;Islamic&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or possibly &#8220;Islamic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/13/this-does-not-represent-us/#comment-18285</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, maybe Muslim would be more accurate. Excuse me. n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, maybe Muslim would be more accurate. Excuse me. n/t</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/13/this-does-not-represent-us/#comment-18284</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t we have American military people guarding it instead of mercenaries?  Frankly, I&#039;m ashamed hat we spend so much on the military, and then hide much, much more military spending by hiring civilians to do the work of the military.

Which can&#039;t win today&#039;s wars with the last centuries strategies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t we have American military people guarding it instead of mercenaries?  Frankly, I&#8217;m ashamed hat we spend so much on the military, and then hide much, much more military spending by hiring civilians to do the work of the military.</p>
<p>Which can&#8217;t win today&#8217;s wars with the last centuries strategies.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/13/this-does-not-represent-us/#comment-18283</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 04:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the fuck is your problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the fuck is your problem?</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/13/this-does-not-represent-us/#comment-18282</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 03:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Other Arab countries like Iran&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Other Arab countries like Iran&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/13/this-does-not-represent-us/#comment-18278</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 03:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read about the reactions from other Arab countries like Iran this morning. It was 911 all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read about the reactions from other Arab countries like Iran this morning. It was 911 all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/13/this-does-not-represent-us/#comment-18275</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 01:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope they are the guilty parties.  They are in for a rough ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they are the guilty parties.  They are in for a rough ride.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/09/13/this-does-not-represent-us/#comment-18271</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/libya-makes-arrests-over-deadly-benghazi-attack-official-175308342.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Libya arrests 4 over deadly Benghazi attack.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/libya-makes-arrests-over-deadly-benghazi-attack-official-175308342.html" rel="nofollow">Libya arrests 4 over deadly Benghazi attack.</a></p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 23:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he wasn&#039;t specifically targeted as an individual, the attack squad that rode piggy-back on the demonstration probably didn&#039;t even know the identities of the men they killed.  Its my understanding it wasn&#039;t even common knowledge he was already on station. But it was definitely his mission they were out to cripple or destroy. You will note that in spite of the fact that the Egyptian US embassy was also attacked, there was no loss of life there, no heavy weapons, just the usual flag-burnings, wall slogans and so on. Still, the rash of other attacks may not just be copycat rioting, they appear to be part of a coordinated international operation.  You have to hand it to these bastards, they know what they&#039;re doing. 

As you have pointed out, we built up a lot of good will in Libya by helping overthrow the dictatorship.  But without strong-man Gaddafi to keep the lid on things, there is a political vacuum which radical Islamists are desperately trying to exploit.  North Africa is wide open for Al-Quaeda and their allies now that the dictators are gone and things are getting hot for them in the Horn of Africa. This attack has probably been planned for months, to take advantage of the 9/11 anniversary.  People showed up with heavy weapons and used military tactics. It wasn&#039;t just a few crazy zealots, this was a military operation.  No doubt they fomented the demonstration as cover for their attack, but they were actally separate events, only tenuously connected.  

The movie that sparked the whole thing is not the cause of this attack, but it was definitely the sort of flame the bad guys, either Al-Quaeda or some similar group, used to set the mob going.  Still, there is a constant stream of anti-Muslim provocation coming out of the fundamentalist Christian hinterlands in the US, no doubt meant primarily for domestic consumption, and a lot of it is on the internet ready to be harvested. Its prime I-told-you-so recruiting ammo handed on a platter to the Jihadis. The preacher who publicized this video has been involved in similar activities which have led to violence, property damage and even death.  Remember the Koran-burning he organized? I sometimes wonder whose side he&#039;s really working for, and who bankrolls him.  You never know where following that money trail might lead.

The good news is that the USA has a lot of friends in Libya, both among the authorities, and the common people.  Even many who may be suspicious of us may not necessarily be friends of the faction that pulled this off, and have their own bone to pick with them.  I wouldn&#039;t be a bit surprised if we weren&#039;t able to get some solid intel on this gang, and perhaps even pick up a few in the leadership, although I would imagine the triggermen, and most of the planners are already out of Libya, burrowing deep underground.

Still, we are getting pretty good at tracking and finding these guys. Even if they die peacefully, of old age, you know they will still spend the rest of their lives looking over their shoulder.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://paxchristiusa1.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/predator.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;.&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he wasn&#8217;t specifically targeted as an individual, the attack squad that rode piggy-back on the demonstration probably didn&#8217;t even know the identities of the men they killed.  Its my understanding it wasn&#8217;t even common knowledge he was already on station. But it was definitely his mission they were out to cripple or destroy. You will note that in spite of the fact that the Egyptian US embassy was also attacked, there was no loss of life there, no heavy weapons, just the usual flag-burnings, wall slogans and so on. Still, the rash of other attacks may not just be copycat rioting, they appear to be part of a coordinated international operation.  You have to hand it to these bastards, they know what they&#8217;re doing. </p>
<p>As you have pointed out, we built up a lot of good will in Libya by helping overthrow the dictatorship.  But without strong-man Gaddafi to keep the lid on things, there is a political vacuum which radical Islamists are desperately trying to exploit.  North Africa is wide open for Al-Quaeda and their allies now that the dictators are gone and things are getting hot for them in the Horn of Africa. This attack has probably been planned for months, to take advantage of the 9/11 anniversary.  People showed up with heavy weapons and used military tactics. It wasn&#8217;t just a few crazy zealots, this was a military operation.  No doubt they fomented the demonstration as cover for their attack, but they were actally separate events, only tenuously connected.  </p>
<p>The movie that sparked the whole thing is not the cause of this attack, but it was definitely the sort of flame the bad guys, either Al-Quaeda or some similar group, used to set the mob going.  Still, there is a constant stream of anti-Muslim provocation coming out of the fundamentalist Christian hinterlands in the US, no doubt meant primarily for domestic consumption, and a lot of it is on the internet ready to be harvested. Its prime I-told-you-so recruiting ammo handed on a platter to the Jihadis. The preacher who publicized this video has been involved in similar activities which have led to violence, property damage and even death.  Remember the Koran-burning he organized? I sometimes wonder whose side he&#8217;s really working for, and who bankrolls him.  You never know where following that money trail might lead.</p>
<p>The good news is that the USA has a lot of friends in Libya, both among the authorities, and the common people.  Even many who may be suspicious of us may not necessarily be friends of the faction that pulled this off, and have their own bone to pick with them.  I wouldn&#8217;t be a bit surprised if we weren&#8217;t able to get some solid intel on this gang, and perhaps even pick up a few in the leadership, although I would imagine the triggermen, and most of the planners are already out of Libya, burrowing deep underground.</p>
<p>Still, we are getting pretty good at tracking and finding these guys. Even if they die peacefully, of old age, you know they will still spend the rest of their lives looking over their shoulder.</p>
<p><img src="http://paxchristiusa1.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/predator.jpg" alt="." /></p>
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