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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>340K provisional and early votes still uncounted.</description>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living with an idiot, living with that mind, is what is wearing.  And it&#039;s a progressive illness, it will only get worse.</description>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 04:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sad and ignorant</description>
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		<title>By: Lindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you should move to Canada.</description>
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		<title>By: SDAI-Tech</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/12/so-arizona-is-really-messed-up/#comment-20449</link>
		<dc:creator>SDAI-Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illegals are &quot;undocumented workers&quot;. 

Euphemisms abound  to make law breaking justifiable, by those who tend to exploit lawbreakers for their own gain. Their plight is noble and almost saintly! Sure the ones we get from Mexico are the absolute lowest caste, unskilled and thousands are the worst type of criminals, but hey they will vote Democrat, so who cares! Open the borders! Let them all in!

Ever since FDR, the political left has exploited Mexicans for labor and to bypass the same minimum wage they forced upon America; breaking the Constitution and blackmailing the Supreme Court with a &quot;legislated retirement age&quot; unless they look at the bogus law again and this time signed off on it. Thisthen drew them here in record numbers after this bogus wage law was enacted. I made the post and showed how the government already set up camps for these illegal workers in the farm areas, to accommodate pissed off farmer owners who were not about to pay some artificially concocted minimum wage to field hands. So FDR&#039;s administration broke their own law and enabled special &quot;businesses&quot; to avoid it on day one! 

FDR was corrupt to his very core. The same thing goes on today and is why Walmart donates to Democrats and likes a nation impoverished and a demographic that has no choice but to shop at their stores. They are immoral, cynical and exploitive to the core.

Now they want the illegals&#039; offspring vote. They want that demographic that swung 2008 and now 2012 in their favor. Because literate people never vote in a Democrat unless they have some personal gain invested in it. They have to be teachers, union members, government workers or - now - people who want the government to endorse their sexual preferences or provide them with birth control because they are worthless slackers who can&#039;t by condoms or birth control pills with their own money. 

They have to be on the dole and somehow profit from either financial or intellectual poverty.

In 1930, there were very few illegal border crossers. No one would hire an illiterate, unskilled worker who wasn&#039;t a citizen when they could get a literate, skilled worker for the same wage.

So rejoice. 

You got your lawbreaker-in-chief. You got your corrupt DOJ, your illiterate voting blocs and accompanying massive growing poverty all over the nation. You&#039;ve got your food stamp legions who will vote handout &lt;I&gt;forever.&lt;/I&gt;  

Arizona will eventually go the way of New Mexico and California, but it&#039;s not going to go without a fight. It&#039;s got about ten years before the illegal squatters&#039; hordes come of age in sufficient quantity and vote to make all Mexicans de facto US citizens.

The Pelosis and Reids are temporary. Their power will be gone with the changing racial tide. Even someone like Obama, who is half white, will be unelectable in 30 years time. A white &quot;social justice mouthpiece&quot; is better than no mouthpiece, but when they hit critical mass they prove that &lt;I&gt;race does matter to them&lt;/I&gt; and will replace them all with politicians of Mexican descent. And at this same juncture all the white, Asian and remaining &quot;old school&quot; Cali-leftists from the Bay area will be horrified to find out they unknowingly empowered their persecutors who will show no love of the LGBT community or their agenda, or their &quot;privileged&quot; lifestyles. 

They want to get Puerto Rico in there - and hell - maybe they will annex Cuba as well.  The more communist type votes - the better! 

The bay area crowd will be outcasts and will be the last to flee California to LGBT friendly, liberal states that have not yet been doomed by the demographics they enabled. Their recriminations for their lack of vision and their lifelong corruption will fall on unsympathetic ears.

But, for some, tomorrow really doesn&#039;t matter. Aesop, with his &quot;The ant and the grasshopper&quot; accurately pegged people&#039;s mindsets long before there was Rome - or it&#039;s fall - or a United States and a Democrat or Republican party.

Sure truth is flexible. If you are one of those illegals or descended from them you will REFUSE to believe that breaking into America is wrong. &quot;Survival&quot; is &lt;I&gt;always&lt;/I&gt; moral!  we had no choice! It was our best opportunity!  

But the &quot;survival of the fittest&quot; principle is unkind to those who don&#039;t evolve. 

&lt;I&gt;It&#039;s even less kind to those who see nobility where it doesn&#039;t exist.&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://jezebel.com/5208586/woman-mauled-by-polar-bear-after-jumping-into-pit-at-berlin-zoo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Just ask the woman who jumped into the polar bear pit.&lt;/A&gt;

Leftists LOVE polar bears!  They are victims of global warming. 

http://jezebel.com/5208586/woman-mauled-by-polar-bear-after-jumping-into-pit-at-berlin-zoo

Yeah, I&#039;m harsher now. More years of dealing with idiots will do that to a person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegals are &#8220;undocumented workers&#8221;. </p>
<p>Euphemisms abound  to make law breaking justifiable, by those who tend to exploit lawbreakers for their own gain. Their plight is noble and almost saintly! Sure the ones we get from Mexico are the absolute lowest caste, unskilled and thousands are the worst type of criminals, but hey they will vote Democrat, so who cares! Open the borders! Let them all in!</p>
<p>Ever since FDR, the political left has exploited Mexicans for labor and to bypass the same minimum wage they forced upon America; breaking the Constitution and blackmailing the Supreme Court with a &#8220;legislated retirement age&#8221; unless they look at the bogus law again and this time signed off on it. Thisthen drew them here in record numbers after this bogus wage law was enacted. I made the post and showed how the government already set up camps for these illegal workers in the farm areas, to accommodate pissed off farmer owners who were not about to pay some artificially concocted minimum wage to field hands. So FDR&#8217;s administration broke their own law and enabled special &#8220;businesses&#8221; to avoid it on day one! </p>
<p>FDR was corrupt to his very core. The same thing goes on today and is why Walmart donates to Democrats and likes a nation impoverished and a demographic that has no choice but to shop at their stores. They are immoral, cynical and exploitive to the core.</p>
<p>Now they want the illegals&#8217; offspring vote. They want that demographic that swung 2008 and now 2012 in their favor. Because literate people never vote in a Democrat unless they have some personal gain invested in it. They have to be teachers, union members, government workers or &#8211; now &#8211; people who want the government to endorse their sexual preferences or provide them with birth control because they are worthless slackers who can&#8217;t by condoms or birth control pills with their own money. </p>
<p>They have to be on the dole and somehow profit from either financial or intellectual poverty.</p>
<p>In 1930, there were very few illegal border crossers. No one would hire an illiterate, unskilled worker who wasn&#8217;t a citizen when they could get a literate, skilled worker for the same wage.</p>
<p>So rejoice. </p>
<p>You got your lawbreaker-in-chief. You got your corrupt DOJ, your illiterate voting blocs and accompanying massive growing poverty all over the nation. You&#8217;ve got your food stamp legions who will vote handout <i>forever.</i>  </p>
<p>Arizona will eventually go the way of New Mexico and California, but it&#8217;s not going to go without a fight. It&#8217;s got about ten years before the illegal squatters&#8217; hordes come of age in sufficient quantity and vote to make all Mexicans de facto US citizens.</p>
<p>The Pelosis and Reids are temporary. Their power will be gone with the changing racial tide. Even someone like Obama, who is half white, will be unelectable in 30 years time. A white &#8220;social justice mouthpiece&#8221; is better than no mouthpiece, but when they hit critical mass they prove that <i>race does matter to them</i> and will replace them all with politicians of Mexican descent. And at this same juncture all the white, Asian and remaining &#8220;old school&#8221; Cali-leftists from the Bay area will be horrified to find out they unknowingly empowered their persecutors who will show no love of the LGBT community or their agenda, or their &#8220;privileged&#8221; lifestyles. </p>
<p>They want to get Puerto Rico in there &#8211; and hell &#8211; maybe they will annex Cuba as well.  The more communist type votes &#8211; the better! </p>
<p>The bay area crowd will be outcasts and will be the last to flee California to LGBT friendly, liberal states that have not yet been doomed by the demographics they enabled. Their recriminations for their lack of vision and their lifelong corruption will fall on unsympathetic ears.</p>
<p>But, for some, tomorrow really doesn&#8217;t matter. Aesop, with his &#8220;The ant and the grasshopper&#8221; accurately pegged people&#8217;s mindsets long before there was Rome &#8211; or it&#8217;s fall &#8211; or a United States and a Democrat or Republican party.</p>
<p>Sure truth is flexible. If you are one of those illegals or descended from them you will REFUSE to believe that breaking into America is wrong. &#8220;Survival&#8221; is <i>always</i> moral!  we had no choice! It was our best opportunity!  </p>
<p>But the &#8220;survival of the fittest&#8221; principle is unkind to those who don&#8217;t evolve. </p>
<p><i>It&#8217;s even less kind to those who see nobility where it doesn&#8217;t exist.</i></p>
<p><a HREF="http://jezebel.com/5208586/woman-mauled-by-polar-bear-after-jumping-into-pit-at-berlin-zoo" rel="nofollow">Just ask the woman who jumped into the polar bear pit.</a></p>
<p>Leftists LOVE polar bears!  They are victims of global warming. </p>
<p><a href="http://jezebel.com/5208586/woman-mauled-by-polar-bear-after-jumping-into-pit-at-berlin-zoo" rel="nofollow">http://jezebel.com/5208586/woman-mauled-by-polar-bear-after-jumping-into-pit-at-berlin-zoo</a></p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m harsher now. More years of dealing with idiots will do that to a person.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad</description>
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		<title>By: SDAI-Tech</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/12/so-arizona-is-really-messed-up/#comment-20439</link>
		<dc:creator>SDAI-Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every year some groups go around handing ballots to illegals here and force them to vote.  I saw them this year too. They send 18 year old Mexican American girls out to the neighborhoods saturated with illegals and help them fill out ballots they bring to them. 

Every year the votes have to be checked against &quot;real&quot; citizen lists. 

I know in California laws don&#039;t matter. Breaking the law is &quot;noble&quot; and &quot;virtuous&quot;. However thanks to the DOJ we have more illegals here voting.

But that&#039;s the point isn&#039;t it?  

You support the breaking of laws. 

You want to enfranchise Mexican nationals who squat here.  Your state boycotted Arizona because you are a state now full to the brim with illegal Mexican nationals.

Some people still obey the laws.  The left loves breaking laws. The left loves its drugs, its illegal aliens and anything that is &quot;forbidden&quot;. 

Leftists can only get off doing something they know is wrong - not right. Their sense of self worth only exists when they can tell themselves their immorality is truly defiant and noble.

Their minds are royally fucked up - just like yours. ;)


Fuck that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every year some groups go around handing ballots to illegals here and force them to vote.  I saw them this year too. They send 18 year old Mexican American girls out to the neighborhoods saturated with illegals and help them fill out ballots they bring to them. </p>
<p>Every year the votes have to be checked against &#8220;real&#8221; citizen lists. </p>
<p>I know in California laws don&#8217;t matter. Breaking the law is &#8220;noble&#8221; and &#8220;virtuous&#8221;. However thanks to the DOJ we have more illegals here voting.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s the point isn&#8217;t it?  </p>
<p>You support the breaking of laws. </p>
<p>You want to enfranchise Mexican nationals who squat here.  Your state boycotted Arizona because you are a state now full to the brim with illegal Mexican nationals.</p>
<p>Some people still obey the laws.  The left loves breaking laws. The left loves its drugs, its illegal aliens and anything that is &#8220;forbidden&#8221;. </p>
<p>Leftists can only get off doing something they know is wrong &#8211; not right. Their sense of self worth only exists when they can tell themselves their immorality is truly defiant and noble.</p>
<p>Their minds are royally fucked up &#8211; just like yours. <img src='https://habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Fuck that.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forcing people to vote provisionally in record numbers, is a problem.</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entire legislative caucuses now vote straight down party lines without crossovers from the other side. We see lock-step party discipline, even against issues the party once supported or even originated, just to obstruct, humiliate and hamstring an opponent, regardless of the damage they may inflict on the country.  And moderates either receive no party support for campaigns, or are drummed out in primary challenges by more ideologically pure zealots.  And of course, there are pledges and oaths which must be publicly signed to avoid ostracism by one&#039;s own party...

GHWB, in my opinion, the most competent and experienced Republican President to run for reelection since Eisenhower, was practically abandoned by his party because of his unfortunate &quot;Read my lips&quot; comment.  Lack of ideological purity.

Add to this,  the  fear that you&#039;ll have to stand in line for hours to vote because of new voting laws designed to make it harder for your party to participate...well, that gives people little choice to not only vote early, but to vote party line.

I know you probably don&#039;t see it that way.  But I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entire legislative caucuses now vote straight down party lines without crossovers from the other side. We see lock-step party discipline, even against issues the party once supported or even originated, just to obstruct, humiliate and hamstring an opponent, regardless of the damage they may inflict on the country.  And moderates either receive no party support for campaigns, or are drummed out in primary challenges by more ideologically pure zealots.  And of course, there are pledges and oaths which must be publicly signed to avoid ostracism by one&#8217;s own party&#8230;</p>
<p>GHWB, in my opinion, the most competent and experienced Republican President to run for reelection since Eisenhower, was practically abandoned by his party because of his unfortunate &#8220;Read my lips&#8221; comment.  Lack of ideological purity.</p>
<p>Add to this,  the  fear that you&#8217;ll have to stand in line for hours to vote because of new voting laws designed to make it harder for your party to participate&#8230;well, that gives people little choice to not only vote early, but to vote party line.</p>
<p>I know you probably don&#8217;t see it that way.  But I do.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not sure what people are expecting.&lt;/p&gt;

Early, provisional, and vote by mail are at all-time highs.  All of these, particularly provisional ballots, take time to count.

It is depressing how many people feel ready to vote many weeks ahead of time.  It basically announces &quot;I don&#039;t care what I might learn.  My mind is made up.&quot; (I&#039;m not talking about those who legitimately have no access to conventional polling places.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what people are expecting.</p>
<p>Early, provisional, and vote by mail are at all-time highs.  All of these, particularly provisional ballots, take time to count.</p>
<p>It is depressing how many people feel ready to vote many weeks ahead of time.  It basically announces &#8220;I don&#8217;t care what I might learn.  My mind is made up.&#8221; (I&#8217;m not talking about those who legitimately have no access to conventional polling places.)</p>
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