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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20950</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 04:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you wanted him for president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you wanted him for president.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20893</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 20:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your tunnel vision gets tiresome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your tunnel vision gets tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20891</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did you notice...&lt;/p&gt;

In my link, the background of the main Vulture Capitalist?  And &quot;The Gephardt Group, LLC.&quot;  Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you notice&#8230;</p>
<p>In my link, the background of the main Vulture Capitalist?  And &#8220;The Gephardt Group, LLC.&#8221;  Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: SDAI-Tech</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20883</link>
		<dc:creator>SDAI-Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 06:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...morals in life are the same ones that apply to business and the liberal corporate businessmen are amazingly immoral - and, yes, sociopaths would be a suitable description for many.  People don&#039;t change their fundamental morality just because they wear turtleneck sweaters or sit behind the wheel of Mercedes AMG M65 on the way to the corporate HQ.

Those who think everyone should be free to screw everyone, usually do so in both the bedroom and the boardroom. ;) Of course this has just been my own personal observation - your mileage may vary. There are sociopaths in all walks of life and all regions. But Silicon Valley is clearly one of the world&#039;s capitals of corruption.

One of the things you fail to note is that with the demise of the small corporations the big ones become more corrupt. Walmart, Paypal/Ebay, Oil companies, all are proof that a lack of real competition leads to the immoral, corrupt corporations that no long seek to compete they seek to monopolize. 

And who&#039;s to blame for that?  &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.stanfordlawreview.org/online/obama-antitrust-enforcement&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The antitrust division of the DOJ&lt;/a&gt;

Government is the ultimate corrupt &quot;company&quot;. It&#039;s players are bought off all the time. This is true in the DOJ, FDA, EPA and every agency you care to think of.

The result? Small businesses and corporations get the shaft and the past twenty years have seen mergers that are fundamentally unsound for the free market.  

If the free market isn&#039;t really free and is a monopoly, one can&#039;t go around complaining that all business people are evil and greedy sociopaths and that&#039;s why we need a socialist world filled with those wonderfully honest and generous socialists.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;morals in life are the same ones that apply to business and the liberal corporate businessmen are amazingly immoral &#8211; and, yes, sociopaths would be a suitable description for many.  People don&#8217;t change their fundamental morality just because they wear turtleneck sweaters or sit behind the wheel of Mercedes AMG M65 on the way to the corporate HQ.</p>
<p>Those who think everyone should be free to screw everyone, usually do so in both the bedroom and the boardroom. <img src='https://habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Of course this has just been my own personal observation &#8211; your mileage may vary. There are sociopaths in all walks of life and all regions. But Silicon Valley is clearly one of the world&#8217;s capitals of corruption.</p>
<p>One of the things you fail to note is that with the demise of the small corporations the big ones become more corrupt. Walmart, Paypal/Ebay, Oil companies, all are proof that a lack of real competition leads to the immoral, corrupt corporations that no long seek to compete they seek to monopolize. </p>
<p>And who&#8217;s to blame for that?  <a HREF="http://www.stanfordlawreview.org/online/obama-antitrust-enforcement" rel="nofollow">The antitrust division of the DOJ</a></p>
<p>Government is the ultimate corrupt &#8220;company&#8221;. It&#8217;s players are bought off all the time. This is true in the DOJ, FDA, EPA and every agency you care to think of.</p>
<p>The result? Small businesses and corporations get the shaft and the past twenty years have seen mergers that are fundamentally unsound for the free market.  </p>
<p>If the free market isn&#8217;t really free and is a monopoly, one can&#8217;t go around complaining that all business people are evil and greedy sociopaths and that&#8217;s why we need a socialist world filled with those wonderfully honest and generous socialists.</p>
<p> <img src='https://habitablezone.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20865</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.com/text/2019717311.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt;

$52million in workers comp? An average of almost $3000 per employee. 

You&#039;d think these guys were Alaska crab fishermen.

(Okay, not enough detail but still an interesting stat)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://seattletimes.com/text/2019717311.html" rel="nofollow">Here</a></p>
<p>$52million in workers comp? An average of almost $3000 per employee. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d think these guys were Alaska crab fishermen.</p>
<p>(Okay, not enough detail but still an interesting stat)</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20863</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or when I saw the problem and attempted to fix it, I used a method to verify it that did not let the entire fix go into effect.

Or someone with godlike powers fixed it for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or when I saw the problem and attempted to fix it, I used a method to verify it that did not let the entire fix go into effect.</p>
<p>Or someone with godlike powers fixed it for me.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20862</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copy it, fix it, &quot;move to trash&quot; and post it again. n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copy it, fix it, &#8220;move to trash&#8221; and post it again. n/t</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20861</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always worked for small companies started and run by men with integrity, so I don&#039;t have your perspective or &quot;framework&quot;. But I can read, and feel no less qualified to comment. Btw, I have a BA in Economics. It&#039;s not a huge accomplishment but I do take great interest in economic issues.

And to save you time, I didn&#039;t take your post as any kind of put down. Just wanted you to know where I&#039;m coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always worked for small companies started and run by men with integrity, so I don&#8217;t have your perspective or &#8220;framework&#8221;. But I can read, and feel no less qualified to comment. Btw, I have a BA in Economics. It&#8217;s not a huge accomplishment but I do take great interest in economic issues.</p>
<p>And to save you time, I didn&#8217;t take your post as any kind of put down. Just wanted you to know where I&#8217;m coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20855</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By your interesting logic...&lt;/p&gt;

Since you&#039;re not in the Navy now, you obviously have no experience being in the Navy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By your interesting logic&#8230;</p>
<p>Since you&#8217;re not in the Navy now, you obviously have no experience being in the Navy.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/17/hostess-collapse-a-union-win/#comment-20854</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In case anyone&#039;s left who cares about the actual details...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/26/hostess-twinkies-bankrupt/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anyone&#8217;s left who cares about the actual details&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/26/hostess-twinkies-bankrupt/" rel="nofollow">Here.</a></p>
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