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		<title>By: Some Ngu-Guy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-21028</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Ngu-Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2012 00:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got this email saying I was registered at some place called &quot;The Habitable Zone&quot;? What&#039;s that all about? Anyway, here I am.

Now what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got this email saying I was registered at some place called &#8220;The Habitable Zone&#8221;? What&#8217;s that all about? Anyway, here I am.</p>
<p>Now what?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-21016</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or maybe it was two tudes too many to do? Hmmm, that pun sounded better in my head than written down.

It&#039;s been my experience that most conflict comes from misunderstanding. A good mediator is a good translator.

It&#039;s kind of like being the &quot;assistant&quot; at a stud farm. Sometimes the two parties need a little help getting into position and aligning their interests, but once you do that, you can step aside and let the two of them take it from there.

Glad I could be of assistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or maybe it was two tudes too many to do? Hmmm, that pun sounded better in my head than written down.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been my experience that most conflict comes from misunderstanding. A good mediator is a good translator.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like being the &#8220;assistant&#8221; at a stud farm. Sometimes the two parties need a little help getting into position and aligning their interests, but once you do that, you can step aside and let the two of them take it from there.</p>
<p>Glad I could be of assistance.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-21015</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that captcha isn&#039;t working, it&#039;s that the emails aren&#039;t going out.

Thanks, podrock. I can work with that. Stay tuned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that captcha isn&#8217;t working, it&#8217;s that the emails aren&#8217;t going out.</p>
<p>Thanks, podrock. I can work with that. Stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-21001</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 07:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People are forever dropping videos or links on my FB pages without much (if ANY) overview of what I am going to see or should be getting from it.
So, most the time I simply ignore. I have even chastised some of my friends on back channel emails to please give me a heads up before I invest the first 10 minutes and haven&#039;t got a frikkin clue where I&#039;m supposed to be getting anything from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People are forever dropping videos or links on my FB pages without much (if ANY) overview of what I am going to see or should be getting from it.<br />
So, most the time I simply ignore. I have even chastised some of my friends on back channel emails to please give me a heads up before I invest the first 10 minutes and haven&#8217;t got a frikkin clue where I&#8217;m supposed to be getting anything from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-20997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have people that I can direct to the Zone.... I have a Community page on Facebook. 

Lindy could too...she has tons of friends...that is what I meant Pod...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have people that I can direct to the Zone&#8230;. I have a Community page on Facebook. </p>
<p>Lindy could too&#8230;she has tons of friends&#8230;that is what I meant Pod&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-20996</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...ya know I have been trying to lose weight...so that derned Roasted Crow and Humble pie just wasn&#039;t on the menu.:) Robert...I had no earthly idea about how this *links stuff* was perceived by others. I thought Bowser was just giving me shit because that is what Bowser does. 

I am sorry for having a &#039;tude...but...I&#039;ll probably exude a tude again...I am a pain in the ass that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;ya know I have been trying to lose weight&#8230;so that derned Roasted Crow and Humble pie just wasn&#8217;t on the menu.:) Robert&#8230;I had no earthly idea about how this *links stuff* was perceived by others. I thought Bowser was just giving me shit because that is what Bowser does. </p>
<p>I am sorry for having a &#8216;tude&#8230;but&#8230;I&#8217;ll probably exude a tude again&#8230;I am a pain in the ass that way.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-20995</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can register, but I never get an e-mail with the initial password. This is what happened on the DamnTikiWiki, lots of folks registered but never got a password.

Jody, if you&#039;ve people you know who have tried to register, let me know their user name and I can send them a password manually.

On the Space Board, which we opened up to non-registed commenting, I get the comment window, but it lacks a post button, so no joy there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can register, but I never get an e-mail with the initial password. This is what happened on the DamnTikiWiki, lots of folks registered but never got a password.</p>
<p>Jody, if you&#8217;ve people you know who have tried to register, let me know their user name and I can send them a password manually.</p>
<p>On the Space Board, which we opened up to non-registed commenting, I get the comment window, but it lacks a post button, so no joy there.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-20994</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 04:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>posts should be more than bumper stickers, and most of us aren&#039;t posting from a cellphone. One of the main thing that sets the forum format apart, in addition to message threading, is that we have room to develop thoughts. 

Showing the source of a post, and the type of link if it&#039;s not to text, is always a good idea. And I think that an excerpted paragraph is such a good idea I&#039;d call it critical.

The problem with herelinks is that you force the reader to go to another site and load another Web page to get even the slightest inkling about what&#039;s there. In essence, you&#039;re not asking people to read another page, you&#039;re telling them to, or just skip the whole thing, take it or leave it. Like I said in my reply to Jody, I respond badly to what I perceive as high-handed treatment, and I refuse to go along with it.

Which is why an excerpt is doing yourself a favor. If the link is to a news article, the author has probably already done you the service of summarizing the article in the first paragraph, and it&#039;s then natural to follow the introductory excerpt with a &quot;more&quot; link. Good for the reader, and it respects the rights of the piece&#039;s author through correct fair use.

With opinion pieces, when I want to provide the seed for a discussion of it, I&#039;ll look for a hook excerpt, something that perhaps asserts the main point of the argument, and direct the reader to the original for more. There&#039;s usually one point that grabbed me and made me think, and it&#039;s natural, to me, to want to talk about that particular thing.

I&#039;m not about to try to tell you how to debate, Tom. You&#039;ve been at it as long as I have and you have a distinctive style of your own. But I won&#039;t hesitate to offer suggestions, one veteran to another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>posts should be more than bumper stickers, and most of us aren&#8217;t posting from a cellphone. One of the main thing that sets the forum format apart, in addition to message threading, is that we have room to develop thoughts. </p>
<p>Showing the source of a post, and the type of link if it&#8217;s not to text, is always a good idea. And I think that an excerpted paragraph is such a good idea I&#8217;d call it critical.</p>
<p>The problem with herelinks is that you force the reader to go to another site and load another Web page to get even the slightest inkling about what&#8217;s there. In essence, you&#8217;re not asking people to read another page, you&#8217;re telling them to, or just skip the whole thing, take it or leave it. Like I said in my reply to Jody, I respond badly to what I perceive as high-handed treatment, and I refuse to go along with it.</p>
<p>Which is why an excerpt is doing yourself a favor. If the link is to a news article, the author has probably already done you the service of summarizing the article in the first paragraph, and it&#8217;s then natural to follow the introductory excerpt with a &#8220;more&#8221; link. Good for the reader, and it respects the rights of the piece&#8217;s author through correct fair use.</p>
<p>With opinion pieces, when I want to provide the seed for a discussion of it, I&#8217;ll look for a hook excerpt, something that perhaps asserts the main point of the argument, and direct the reader to the original for more. There&#8217;s usually one point that grabbed me and made me think, and it&#8217;s natural, to me, to want to talk about that particular thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not about to try to tell you how to debate, Tom. You&#8217;ve been at it as long as I have and you have a distinctive style of your own. But I won&#8217;t hesitate to offer suggestions, one veteran to another.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-20992</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 03:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And peace be with you, my child</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And peace be with you, my child</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/11/22/links-in-posts/#comment-20991</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 03:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think maybe we&#039;ve gotten a bit lax about documenting sources and supporting arguments. You&#039;re right about the value of links, and I only would prefer that the link didn&#039;t shoulder the entire burden of the post.

I haven&#039;t noticed an excessive amount of n/t posts from you, Rob. I&#039;m sorry to hear that you&#039;re short of energy and that writing isn&#039;t coming easy. You know how I worry...what&#039;s up?

Glad it&#039;s still a blast, and I&#039;m still determined to keep it that way. I may not always express it well, but that&#039;s what these well-intentioned &quot;let&#039;s do it better&quot; posts are all about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think maybe we&#8217;ve gotten a bit lax about documenting sources and supporting arguments. You&#8217;re right about the value of links, and I only would prefer that the link didn&#8217;t shoulder the entire burden of the post.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t noticed an excessive amount of n/t posts from you, Rob. I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you&#8217;re short of energy and that writing isn&#8217;t coming easy. You know how I worry&#8230;what&#8217;s up?</p>
<p>Glad it&#8217;s still a blast, and I&#8217;m still determined to keep it that way. I may not always express it well, but that&#8217;s what these well-intentioned &#8220;let&#8217;s do it better&#8221; posts are all about.</p>
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