Comments on: Queen’s gambit? https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/04/queens-gambit/ Thu, 23 Apr 2026 21:07:28 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/04/queens-gambit/#comment-21374 bowser Tue, 04 Dec 2012 23:22:30 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=27368#comment-21374 If it is that important, why aren't Great Britain, France, Russia, Japan, China, India and East Timor aboard? Australia, New Zealand and South Africa? The US has so completely screwed over the people in the Middle East for so long it's embarrassing. Bringing down the Assad government isn't for us to decide. We already brought down a democratically elected government in Iran, and have an undeclared war going on against them, and why? They want to control their own oil. And the Pentagon says Syria isn't getting ready to gas anyone. Looks as if Obama is grandstanding. Assume the Tea Party got their guy elected president and people in the US revolted. Assume that revolution appeared about to succeed. Do you think the Tea Party would not use gas or nuclear weapons if they thought they had to to stay in power? Of course they would. Would that be any of Syria's business? Of course not. Advocating more involvement in the Middle East is not only a disservice to Americans, it's a disservice to the Middle East. Just because someone doesn't like you is not an excuse to kill them. Or their wives and children. If it is that important, why aren’t Great Britain, France, Russia, Japan, China, India and East Timor aboard? Australia, New Zealand and South Africa?

The US has so completely screwed over the people in the Middle East for so long it’s embarrassing. Bringing down the Assad government isn’t for us to decide. We already brought down a democratically elected government in Iran, and have an undeclared war going on against them, and why? They want to control their own oil.

And the Pentagon says Syria isn’t getting ready to gas anyone. Looks as if Obama is grandstanding.

Assume the Tea Party got their guy elected president and people in the US revolted. Assume that revolution appeared about to succeed. Do you think the Tea Party would not use gas or nuclear weapons if they thought they had to to stay in power? Of course they would. Would that be any of Syria’s business? Of course not.
Advocating more involvement in the Middle East is not only a disservice to Americans, it’s a disservice to the Middle East.

Just because someone doesn’t like you is not an excuse to kill them. Or their wives and children.

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/04/queens-gambit/#comment-21363 ER Tue, 04 Dec 2012 20:00:49 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=27368#comment-21363 Denying Syria the opportunity to gas its rebels by the thousands might not only save their lives, it might bring down the Assad government and help cripple the Tehran/Damascus/Hezbollah axis, helping bring peace to the middle east and removing the need to attack Iranian nukes, saving even more lives. And all without firing a shot. Denying Syria the opportunity to gas its rebels by the thousands might not only save their lives, it might bring down the Assad government and help cripple the Tehran/Damascus/Hezbollah axis, helping bring peace to the middle east and removing the need to attack Iranian nukes, saving even more lives. And all without firing a shot.

]]> By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/04/queens-gambit/#comment-21353 bowser Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:04:18 +0000 http://habitablezone.com/?p=27368#comment-21353 I realize this is unpopular, and yet I can't imagine a circumstance where the US has any right, duty or excuse to intervene in a Syrian civil war. It does not threaten our security. If one tries the "moral high road" excuse, the US lost the moral high road some time ago, in fact chose the moral low road. The US even repudiated the Geneva Conventions, the baseline of morality to which most nations subscribe. There are other civil wars in Africa, many of which have casualty rates approaching the Holocaust. If ever morality called for intervention, it's there, and yet those are ignored. So let's cut the morality crap. The US has enough troubles without getting it's best and brightest killed for absolutely no good reason. No matter what happens in Syria, our shores will not be stormed by Syrian troops, there will be no crop dusters launched from merchant vessels spraying our shores with anthrax, there will by no Syrian mushroom cloud over Manhattan, our schools with still teach English, and the people who most advocate for intervening will be bitching about the taxes it takes to pay for it. We have been prepped for war for a couple of years now, horror story after horror story coming out of Syria. And yet, inevitably, when one inserts troops of any nationality into the picture, more horrors occur. Let's not forget the felons inducted into the US military, armed and turned loose upon a civilian population. Nope, the US should learn to mind the business of it's civilian population, not international corporations. I realize this is unpopular, and yet I can’t imagine a circumstance where the US has any right, duty or excuse to intervene in a Syrian civil war. It does not threaten our security.

If one tries the “moral high road” excuse, the US lost the moral high road some time ago, in fact chose the moral low road. The US even repudiated the Geneva Conventions, the baseline of morality to which most nations subscribe.

There are other civil wars in Africa, many of which have casualty rates approaching the Holocaust. If ever morality called for intervention, it’s there, and yet those are ignored. So let’s cut the morality crap.

The US has enough troubles without getting it’s best and brightest killed for absolutely no good reason. No matter what happens in Syria, our shores will not be stormed by Syrian troops, there will be no crop dusters launched from merchant vessels spraying our shores with anthrax, there will by no Syrian mushroom cloud over Manhattan, our schools with still teach English, and the people who most advocate for intervening will be bitching about the taxes it takes to pay for it.

We have been prepped for war for a couple of years now, horror story after horror story coming out of Syria. And yet, inevitably, when one inserts troops of any nationality into the picture, more horrors occur. Let’s not forget the felons inducted into the US military, armed and turned loose upon a civilian population.

Nope, the US should learn to mind the business of it’s civilian population, not international corporations.

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