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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21530</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 04:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If so, why?

If not, why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If so, why?</p>
<p>If not, why not?</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21522</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;ve dragged Buck&#039;s &quot;Red&quot; herring around long enough.

There used to be a word for an economic system where there was technically private property, but the State had tight control of how everything was done.  It got scrubbed from the lexicon.  Too many parallels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;ve dragged Buck&#8217;s &#8220;Red&#8221; herring around long enough.</p>
<p>There used to be a word for an economic system where there was technically private property, but the State had tight control of how everything was done.  It got scrubbed from the lexicon.  Too many parallels.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21521</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Bush controlled everything, was that &quot;communism&quot;?  I&#039;m going to pester you until you answer.

Is there private property in California.  Do people own houses, businesses, stock and bonds?

You are very fast, loose and inaccurate in your use of words, TB.  It&#039;s not possible to talk with you rationally because you make up definitions of the words you use and apply them to situations which already can be defined accurately using words with an agreed upon meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Bush controlled everything, was that &#8220;communism&#8221;?  I&#8217;m going to pester you until you answer.</p>
<p>Is there private property in California.  Do people own houses, businesses, stock and bonds?</p>
<p>You are very fast, loose and inaccurate in your use of words, TB.  It&#8217;s not possible to talk with you rationally because you make up definitions of the words you use and apply them to situations which already can be defined accurately using words with an agreed upon meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21515</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your response to the Democrats gaining total control of California&#039;s government:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;...now they actually have a way to fix the problem CA has without the rightwing blocking them.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not a bug, a feature.  We&#039;re riding this out here in California.  Complete control may have to wait a year, but the Democrats are telling us they can be trusted with this power.  I wouldn&#039;t trust Republicans with it, or any bunch of people you could name.

And if the Democratic Party took complete control of the Federal government?  I don&#039;t have to imagine it, I saw it in 2008.  James Carville crowed about it in his book &lt;em&gt;40 More Years: How the Democrats Will Rule the Next Generation.&lt;/em&gt;  The word &quot;rule&quot; is his, not mine.  Carville is a respected Democratic pundit, not some looney in a basement.

Look at what&#039;s going on in Washington.  What the commentary here has been showing.  The Democrats aren&#039;t working on fixing some serious problems.  The specifics of what they&#039;re pushing make this obvious.  They&#039;re working on crushing the remains of their opposition, and their followers are cheering them on.

Terminology, or its destruction, is used to defuse opposition.  As in &lt;em&gt;1984&lt;/em&gt;, once you&#039;ve obliterated the words used to describe something, you can&#039;t talk about it any more.

As I told Bowser, make up another name for the specific concept of an all-powerful political authority controlling the economy and almost everything else, ruled by one political entity.  I&#039;ll use it.

Communism, as it was actually carried out in the real world, has been uniformly consistent in its ideas, methods, and results for almost a century, but if that&#039;s not enough to make the word useful as a reference, think of another one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your response to the Democrats gaining total control of California&#8217;s government:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;now they actually have a way to fix the problem CA has without the rightwing blocking them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Not a bug, a feature.  We&#8217;re riding this out here in California.  Complete control may have to wait a year, but the Democrats are telling us they can be trusted with this power.  I wouldn&#8217;t trust Republicans with it, or any bunch of people you could name.</p>
<p>And if the Democratic Party took complete control of the Federal government?  I don&#8217;t have to imagine it, I saw it in 2008.  James Carville crowed about it in his book <em>40 More Years: How the Democrats Will Rule the Next Generation.</em>  The word &#8220;rule&#8221; is his, not mine.  Carville is a respected Democratic pundit, not some looney in a basement.</p>
<p>Look at what&#8217;s going on in Washington.  What the commentary here has been showing.  The Democrats aren&#8217;t working on fixing some serious problems.  The specifics of what they&#8217;re pushing make this obvious.  They&#8217;re working on crushing the remains of their opposition, and their followers are cheering them on.</p>
<p>Terminology, or its destruction, is used to defuse opposition.  As in <em>1984</em>, once you&#8217;ve obliterated the words used to describe something, you can&#8217;t talk about it any more.</p>
<p>As I told Bowser, make up another name for the specific concept of an all-powerful political authority controlling the economy and almost everything else, ruled by one political entity.  I&#8217;ll use it.</p>
<p>Communism, as it was actually carried out in the real world, has been uniformly consistent in its ideas, methods, and results for almost a century, but if that&#8217;s not enough to make the word useful as a reference, think of another one.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21513</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve completely lost your fucking mind.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21503</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Rob, given the use of &quot;Teatards&quot; in your post, I did a doubletake when I looked again at the poster&#039;s name. But then it&#039;s TPN, and we&#039;ve both been members of that group. What&#039;s changed is that most of their material is open to the public, to read, now. That doesn&#039;t seem to be inhibiting some of the usual suspects from continuing to threaten revolution. And Judson is in fine voice, isn&#039;t he?

I spent considerable time perusing their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teapartynation.com/group/constitutionstudygroup&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Constitution Study Group&lt;/a&gt;, because if anything could salvage the tea party movement in my eyes, it&#039;s that image they promulgate of hundreds of study groups around the country earnestly studying the Constitution and bringing about a revived intellectual appreciation of American values.

Alas, it&#039;s not be, at least not under the auspices of TPN. They seem to be engaged in the time-honored game of cherry-picking and reinterpreting to make the Constitution say what they think it should say. There were times when they seemed to be confusing Constitution 1.0 (Articles of Confederation) with 2.0, the version passed in 1789. I was particularly amused/horrified by a thesis (http://www.teapartynation.com/group/constitutionstudygroup/forum/topics/the-obama-eligibility-issue ...note how the URL gives away the agenda) &quot;proving&quot; that &quot;natural born citizen&quot; is an inherited title--no immigrants allowed. No matter that the doctrine would limit citizenship to descendants of people present in 1789...by gawd, that&#039;s what it says, right there, somewhere. They&#039;re big on such &quot;proofs&quot;.

Sad, because I&#039;m one those freaks who&#039;s actually read the Federalist Papers multiple times, slogged through &quot;Wealth of Nations&quot;, and carries two copies of the Constitution around with me at all times, loaded into my tablet ebook reader. I&#039;m ready to argue the Constitution at the drop of a clause. Sometimes I wish the HabitableZone could engage in that kind of intellectual journey, and the presence of two sides here would at least theoretically mitigate the tendency to drift off into wishful thinking. But maybe that&#039;s just my own wishful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Rob, given the use of &#8220;Teatards&#8221; in your post, I did a doubletake when I looked again at the poster&#8217;s name. But then it&#8217;s TPN, and we&#8217;ve both been members of that group. What&#8217;s changed is that most of their material is open to the public, to read, now. That doesn&#8217;t seem to be inhibiting some of the usual suspects from continuing to threaten revolution. And Judson is in fine voice, isn&#8217;t he?</p>
<p>I spent considerable time perusing their <a href="http://www.teapartynation.com/group/constitutionstudygroup" rel="nofollow">Constitution Study Group</a>, because if anything could salvage the tea party movement in my eyes, it&#8217;s that image they promulgate of hundreds of study groups around the country earnestly studying the Constitution and bringing about a revived intellectual appreciation of American values.</p>
<p>Alas, it&#8217;s not be, at least not under the auspices of TPN. They seem to be engaged in the time-honored game of cherry-picking and reinterpreting to make the Constitution say what they think it should say. There were times when they seemed to be confusing Constitution 1.0 (Articles of Confederation) with 2.0, the version passed in 1789. I was particularly amused/horrified by a thesis (<a href="http://www.teapartynation.com/group/constitutionstudygroup/forum/topics/the-obama-eligibility-issue" rel="nofollow">http://www.teapartynation.com/group/constitutionstudygroup/forum/topics/the-obama-eligibility-issue</a> &#8230;note how the URL gives away the agenda) &#8220;proving&#8221; that &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; is an inherited title&#8211;no immigrants allowed. No matter that the doctrine would limit citizenship to descendants of people present in 1789&#8230;by gawd, that&#8217;s what it says, right there, somewhere. They&#8217;re big on such &#8220;proofs&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sad, because I&#8217;m one those freaks who&#8217;s actually read the Federalist Papers multiple times, slogged through &#8220;Wealth of Nations&#8221;, and carries two copies of the Constitution around with me at all times, loaded into my tablet ebook reader. I&#8217;m ready to argue the Constitution at the drop of a clause. Sometimes I wish the HabitableZone could engage in that kind of intellectual journey, and the presence of two sides here would at least theoretically mitigate the tendency to drift off into wishful thinking. But maybe that&#8217;s just my own wishful thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21499</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Freedom&quot; is anything he likes.

He&#039;s a real stickler for definitions.  He&#039;s making them all the time.

Communism in the Land of the Pharaohs...
&lt;img src=&quot;http://egyptian-mysteries.com/sites/default/files/slaves-game.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;.&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Freedom&#8221; is anything he likes.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a real stickler for definitions.  He&#8217;s making them all the time.</p>
<p>Communism in the Land of the Pharaohs&#8230;<br />
<img src="http://egyptian-mysteries.com/sites/default/files/slaves-game.jpg" alt="." /></p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21496</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Make up another name, then for the precise situation I described.&lt;/p&gt;

I&#039;m easy.

It&#039;s the situation that has existed in every nation on the planet that has called itself &quot;Marxist&quot; or &quot;communist.&quot;  A reasonable person might be excused for assuming the obvious, like assuming after decades of observation that sharks are carnivorous.

(I must say, I do love your lectures on reason, reality, and believing things without regard for the truth.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make up another name, then for the precise situation I described.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m easy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the situation that has existed in every nation on the planet that has called itself &#8220;Marxist&#8221; or &#8220;communist.&#8221;  A reasonable person might be excused for assuming the obvious, like assuming after decades of observation that sharks are carnivorous.</p>
<p>(I must say, I do love your lectures on reason, reality, and believing things without regard for the truth.)</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21495</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All one has to do to flout their ignorance in politics and economics the way a peacock waves his tail around is to call &quot;communism&quot; a political system.

Nothing demonstrates that someone is simply a carrier of megacorporation propaganda and has never thought for themselves or learned one whit about economics and politics as calling &quot;communism&quot; a political system. 

And it just demonstrates that you believe what you want to believe without regard for the truth or reality.  Demonstrates it very, very well.

It&#039;s not as if you haven&#039;t had the opportunity to learn, it&#039;s that you refuse to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All one has to do to flout their ignorance in politics and economics the way a peacock waves his tail around is to call &#8220;communism&#8221; a political system.</p>
<p>Nothing demonstrates that someone is simply a carrier of megacorporation propaganda and has never thought for themselves or learned one whit about economics and politics as calling &#8220;communism&#8221; a political system. </p>
<p>And it just demonstrates that you believe what you want to believe without regard for the truth or reality.  Demonstrates it very, very well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as if you haven&#8217;t had the opportunity to learn, it&#8217;s that you refuse to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/06/tpn-on-ann-coulter/#comment-21493</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tell me again, Buck...&lt;/p&gt;

Your opinion about the veto-proof, restriction-proof two-thirds Democratic Party control in California.

&quot;Communism&quot; is just a word people call something.  An all-powerful centralized government controlled by a single party is what the thing &lt;em&gt;is.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me again, Buck&#8230;</p>
<p>Your opinion about the veto-proof, restriction-proof two-thirds Democratic Party control in California.</p>
<p>&#8220;Communism&#8221; is just a word people call something.  An all-powerful centralized government controlled by a single party is what the thing <em>is.</em></p>
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