Comments on: Let’s clear up the myth about capitalists liking free enterprise. https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/10/lets-clear-up-the-myth-about-capitalists-liking-free-enterprise/ Tue, 07 Apr 2026 19:18:10 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/10/lets-clear-up-the-myth-about-capitalists-liking-free-enterprise/#comment-21728 bowser Thu, 13 Dec 2012 08:58:09 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=27874#comment-21728 Capitalists do not want free enterprise. We've established that. Conservatives don't want debt reduction or they'd reduce the military. We've established that. So what is left for you guys? Nothing. You are merely trumpeting hollow notes for the big guys, the guys who don't care a bit about you, on subjects they don't have the slightest interest in. What would you call people who scream for free enterprise while the larger corporations are angling for every government advantage and subsidy they can get? Or people calling for reduced debt and advocating $400 million for a single plane, no reduction in military spending? No one has to be a fool. Some people choose it, for some reason or another, but clearly you have been demonstrated to be fools. Opt out, show some guts, think for yourselves. Give us a little hope for humanity. Because right now you look foolish, without the ability to see past the latest LImbaugh show. Oh, yes. You might wonder what those who can see the contradiction here thinks of you who refuse to acknowledge reality. It's not flattering, nor should it be. Capitalists do not want free enterprise. We’ve established that.

Conservatives don’t want debt reduction or they’d reduce the military. We’ve established that.

So what is left for you guys? Nothing. You are merely trumpeting hollow notes for the big guys, the guys who don’t care a bit about you, on subjects they don’t have the slightest interest in.

What would you call people who scream for free enterprise while the larger corporations are angling for every government advantage and subsidy they can get?

Or people calling for reduced debt and advocating $400 million for a single plane, no reduction in military spending?

No one has to be a fool. Some people choose it, for some reason or another, but clearly you have been demonstrated to be fools. Opt out, show some guts, think for yourselves. Give us a little hope for humanity. Because right now you look foolish, without the ability to see past the latest LImbaugh show.

Oh, yes. You might wonder what those who can see the contradiction here thinks of you who refuse to acknowledge reality. It’s not flattering, nor should it be.

]]> By: RobVG https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/10/lets-clear-up-the-myth-about-capitalists-liking-free-enterprise/#comment-21694 RobVG Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:56:09 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=27874#comment-21694 Because of the seemingly bottomless hole we're in, everyone is treating a billion dollars as though it was chump change. We need to be looking at, and slashing the budget- a million dollars at a time. Every million counts like yards on football field. A billion should be considered a Hail Mary. Without this attitude we'll never score. (Sorry, got "carried" away on the football analogy) Because of the seemingly bottomless hole we’re in, everyone is treating a billion dollars as though it was chump change.

We need to be looking at, and slashing the budget- a million dollars at a time. Every million counts like yards on football field. A billion should be considered a Hail Mary. Without this attitude we’ll never score.

(Sorry, got “carried” away on the football analogy)

]]> By: TB https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/10/lets-clear-up-the-myth-about-capitalists-liking-free-enterprise/#comment-21657 TB Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:06:39 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=27874#comment-21657 Very few people actually know what "oil subsidies" are. People cheerfully smash into this category things like cost of business and materials deductions, foreign tax credits, writeoffs, and other long-available parts of the tax code that are available to every business in the country. If you kill those for one industry, will you kill them for all of them? Tax credits <em>specific to the oil and gas industry</em> (according to your links) run about three or four billion a year. This would run the government for about nine hours. Farm subsidies vary over time, but currently seem to run about <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/07/02/GR2006070200024.html" rel="nofollow">$20 billion a year.</a> I have no problem cutting out oil-industry-only tax breaks ($4 billion a year) and phasing out farm subsidies ($20 billion a year). You've just paid for running our government for about 55 hours. Very few people actually know what “oil subsidies” are.

People cheerfully smash into this category things like cost of business and materials deductions, foreign tax credits, writeoffs, and other long-available parts of the tax code that are available to every business in the country. If you kill those for one industry, will you kill them for all of them?

Tax credits specific to the oil and gas industry (according to your links) run about three or four billion a year. This would run the government for about nine hours.

Farm subsidies vary over time, but currently seem to run about $20 billion a year.

I have no problem cutting out oil-industry-only tax breaks ($4 billion a year) and phasing out farm subsidies ($20 billion a year).

You’ve just paid for running our government for about 55 hours.

]]> By: ER https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/10/lets-clear-up-the-myth-about-capitalists-liking-free-enterprise/#comment-21646 ER Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:49:44 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=27874#comment-21646 But I've got a driver and that's a start. Beep, beep, umm beep, beep, YEAH! But I’ve got a driver and that’s a start.
Beep, beep, umm beep, beep, YEAH!

]]> By: RobVG https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/10/lets-clear-up-the-myth-about-capitalists-liking-free-enterprise/#comment-21641 RobVG Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:08:07 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=27874#comment-21641 <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/09/974611/gop-rep-calls-for-end-to-oil-subsidies-after-repeatedly-voting-to-preserve-them/" rel="nofollow">Oil</a> <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/04/news/economy/farm-subsidies/index.html" rel="nofollow">Farms</a> Oil

Farms

]]> By: TB https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/10/lets-clear-up-the-myth-about-capitalists-liking-free-enterprise/#comment-21623 TB Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:11:58 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=27874#comment-21623 What's your solution? What’s your solution?

]]> By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/10/lets-clear-up-the-myth-about-capitalists-liking-free-enterprise/#comment-21622 bowser Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:06:31 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=27874#comment-21622 They are the ones avoiding free enterprise. They are the ones avoiding free enterprise.

]]> By: TB https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/10/lets-clear-up-the-myth-about-capitalists-liking-free-enterprise/#comment-21621 TB Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:28:12 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=27874#comment-21621 Good. Take the power away from the government to do these things for them. Next? Good. Take the power away from the government to do these things for them. Next?

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