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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/13/why-republicans-cant-propose-specific-spending-cuts/#comment-21755</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a lot of ways I feel my attitude in recent years has become much angrier because of their reckless and unreasoning behavior.  The Tea Party in particular is so dangerously ignorant I have no patience for them. We are talking about the lowest common denominator of the conservative movement, the crazies.  The folks who happily want to destroy the global economy because that will make sure there&#039;s not too darn much government! Those brilliant economic thinkers who want to LOWER the debt ceiling!  

Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a lot of ways I feel my attitude in recent years has become much angrier because of their reckless and unreasoning behavior.  The Tea Party in particular is so dangerously ignorant I have no patience for them. We are talking about the lowest common denominator of the conservative movement, the crazies.  The folks who happily want to destroy the global economy because that will make sure there&#8217;s not too darn much government! Those brilliant economic thinkers who want to LOWER the debt ceiling!  </p>
<p>Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how come Boehner and his allies keep screaming about wanting spending cuts, but never propose any?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how come Boehner and his allies keep screaming about wanting spending cuts, but never propose any?</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw a segment about it on the news. It&#039;s becoming popular to construct self-contained &quot;apartments&quot; in new homes. There intended to house needy family members like teenage mothers and elderly parents.

An example of a new family safety net. Cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw a segment about it on the news. It&#8217;s becoming popular to construct self-contained &#8220;apartments&#8221; in new homes. There intended to house needy family members like teenage mothers and elderly parents.</p>
<p>An example of a new family safety net. Cool</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least we used to be.

For a long time, the US was a country defined by individuals with initiative. The work ethic was something that was passed from generation to generation. Personal responsibility was a virtue.  Hell, we even used to put people in prison for accumulating debt.

You didn&#039;t look to government for help. You turned toward your community, your church, and most importantly your family.

You may prefer to live in a country were income equality  and buffering  life’s risks are valued more than rewarding individual accomplishment and preparedness. I’d rather not.


A brief summery of Social Services.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Prior to 1850
	Family and church based “relief”

1850’s and 1860’s
	State and Federal governments establish some services – examples
		Federal:	Freedman’s Bureau services for newly emancipated slaves
		States:		mental asylums, poor houses and orphanages 

1870’s
	Major depression lasting most of the decade
	Two responses:
Government response was direct relief to moderate the depression’s severity
Charity workers’ response was that direct relief would lead to the moral demise of the poor by encouraging dependency – “treating” personal deficiencies would be the answer

1890’s
Increased recognition of the need to look at all causes of poverty, not just personal deficiencies
Settlement House movement begins – focus more on the causes of poverty than the flaws of the poor


1900 – 1917
	The “Progressive Era”
	Federal government focus on women’s and children’s issues
The Children’s Bureau
Maternal and Infant Health Services

1920 – 1929
	“The Rise of the Professionals”
	States took over many of the services previously performed by private charities
Community Chests (forerunner of United Ways) start to do fundraising for private charities

1929 – 1940
	The Great Depression and The New Deal
The Depression threw many people into poverty even though they were willing and able to work
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal created many new social programs
Civilian Conservation Corps – public service work for young men
Works Progress Administration – employed more than 8 million people in civic construction projects and artistic endeavors
Social Security Act – offered working people some guarantees against economic and social programs beyond their individual control – benefits for the elderly and the disabled.

1940’s
	In the early part of the decade, most of the nation’s energy was devoted to World War II
	Women in the work force was a major social change

1950’s
	Basically a conservative decade without much attention to social issues

1960’s
	John F. Kennedy’s New Frontier expressed social idealism, but not a lot accomplished
	Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society and War On Poverty
Economic Opportunity Act included: Job Corps; Vista; Community Action Programs; Head Start; legal services for the poor; Foster Grandparents
Other Social Programs: Department of Housing and Urban Development; Medicaid; Food Stamps
Older Americans Act: Created the Administration on Aging and authorized grants to States for community planning and services programs, as well as for research, demonstration and training projects in the field of aging

1970’s
	Few new social programs

1980’s
Ronald Reagan and the rise of the New Right – favored limits on government welfare programs – change is the responsibility of individuals and businesses

1988 – 1992
George Bush saw change as the responsibility of individuals and businesses – strongly encouraged volunteerism – “thousand points of light”
Americans with Disabilities Act

1990’s
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) replaces Aid to Families with Dependent Children Program (AFDC). This was a major change in the welfare system, specifically by making assistance time limited and enforcing work or training requirements for recipients.

Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 which took effect July 26, 1992, prohibits private employers, state and local governments, employment agencies and labor unions from discriminating against qualified individuals with disabilities in job application procedures, hiring, firing, advancement, compensation, job training, and other terms, conditions and privileges of employment.

2000’s
Older Americans Act Amendments: The reauthorized Act contains an important new program, the National Family Caregiver Support Program, which will help hundreds of thousands of family members who are struggling to care for their older loved ones who are ill or who have disabilities. The Act was also extended through FY 2005
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least we used to be.</p>
<p>For a long time, the US was a country defined by individuals with initiative. The work ethic was something that was passed from generation to generation. Personal responsibility was a virtue.  Hell, we even used to put people in prison for accumulating debt.</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t look to government for help. You turned toward your community, your church, and most importantly your family.</p>
<p>You may prefer to live in a country were income equality  and buffering  life’s risks are valued more than rewarding individual accomplishment and preparedness. I’d rather not.</p>
<p>A brief summery of Social Services.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Prior to 1850<br />
	Family and church based “relief”</p>
<p>1850’s and 1860’s<br />
	State and Federal governments establish some services – examples<br />
		Federal:	Freedman’s Bureau services for newly emancipated slaves<br />
		States:		mental asylums, poor houses and orphanages </p>
<p>1870’s<br />
	Major depression lasting most of the decade<br />
	Two responses:<br />
Government response was direct relief to moderate the depression’s severity<br />
Charity workers’ response was that direct relief would lead to the moral demise of the poor by encouraging dependency – “treating” personal deficiencies would be the answer</p>
<p>1890’s<br />
Increased recognition of the need to look at all causes of poverty, not just personal deficiencies<br />
Settlement House movement begins – focus more on the causes of poverty than the flaws of the poor</p>
<p>1900 – 1917<br />
	The “Progressive Era”<br />
	Federal government focus on women’s and children’s issues<br />
The Children’s Bureau<br />
Maternal and Infant Health Services</p>
<p>1920 – 1929<br />
	“The Rise of the Professionals”<br />
	States took over many of the services previously performed by private charities<br />
Community Chests (forerunner of United Ways) start to do fundraising for private charities</p>
<p>1929 – 1940<br />
	The Great Depression and The New Deal<br />
The Depression threw many people into poverty even though they were willing and able to work<br />
President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal created many new social programs<br />
Civilian Conservation Corps – public service work for young men<br />
Works Progress Administration – employed more than 8 million people in civic construction projects and artistic endeavors<br />
Social Security Act – offered working people some guarantees against economic and social programs beyond their individual control – benefits for the elderly and the disabled.</p>
<p>1940’s<br />
	In the early part of the decade, most of the nation’s energy was devoted to World War II<br />
	Women in the work force was a major social change</p>
<p>1950’s<br />
	Basically a conservative decade without much attention to social issues</p>
<p>1960’s<br />
	John F. Kennedy’s New Frontier expressed social idealism, but not a lot accomplished<br />
	Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society and War On Poverty<br />
Economic Opportunity Act included: Job Corps; Vista; Community Action Programs; Head Start; legal services for the poor; Foster Grandparents<br />
Other Social Programs: Department of Housing and Urban Development; Medicaid; Food Stamps<br />
Older Americans Act: Created the Administration on Aging and authorized grants to States for community planning and services programs, as well as for research, demonstration and training projects in the field of aging</p>
<p>1970’s<br />
	Few new social programs</p>
<p>1980’s<br />
Ronald Reagan and the rise of the New Right – favored limits on government welfare programs – change is the responsibility of individuals and businesses</p>
<p>1988 – 1992<br />
George Bush saw change as the responsibility of individuals and businesses – strongly encouraged volunteerism – “thousand points of light”<br />
Americans with Disabilities Act</p>
<p>1990’s<br />
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) replaces Aid to Families with Dependent Children Program (AFDC). This was a major change in the welfare system, specifically by making assistance time limited and enforcing work or training requirements for recipients.</p>
<p>Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 which took effect July 26, 1992, prohibits private employers, state and local governments, employment agencies and labor unions from discriminating against qualified individuals with disabilities in job application procedures, hiring, firing, advancement, compensation, job training, and other terms, conditions and privileges of employment.</p>
<p>2000’s<br />
Older Americans Act Amendments: The reauthorized Act contains an important new program, the National Family Caregiver Support Program, which will help hundreds of thousands of family members who are struggling to care for their older loved ones who are ill or who have disabilities. The Act was also extended through FY 2005
</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/13/why-republicans-cant-propose-specific-spending-cuts/#comment-21740</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I don&#039;t feel that way about all Republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I don&#8217;t feel that way about all Republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2012/12/13/why-republicans-cant-propose-specific-spending-cuts/#comment-21738</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t disagree with how you feel about the new Republicans. n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with how you feel about the new Republicans. n/t</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty soon the Republicans will permit the Bush tax rates to expire.  At that time your champions in congress will explain to you why this is not raising tax rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty soon the Republicans will permit the Bush tax rates to expire.  At that time your champions in congress will explain to you why this is not raising tax rates.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all believe in more or less the same things, the key thing to remember is the &quot;more or less&quot;. 

If I lived in Canada, the UK, or in most of the W European countries, I would probably vote with the Tories, because I believe most European countries (the currently accepted term is &quot;social democracies&quot;) lean a bit too far left for my taste. But no, I do not think they are Communists, and I don&#039;t think they are headed that way, either.  

What really ticks me off is that this new American brand of Conservative seems to see only two alternatives, Soviet Bolshevism, or them.  I don&#039;t buy it, and I don&#039;t trust them.  I never voted Republican, but I never feared them until Ronald Reagan.

I may not agree with all Democrats on all their programs, or in how far they might want to push them, but I feel much more comfortable on the American Left than the new American Right.  I find them intolerant, mean, doctrinaire, smug, arrogant, ruthless and self-righteous. They claim to be driven on principle and logic, but willingly choose their allies from the most ignorant, bigoted and toxic segments of society.  They will crawl into bed with anyone as long as they aren&#039;t Communists. In fact, their guiding principle seems to be &quot;the Communists want to take over and therefore we are entitled, indeed, &lt;em&gt;obligated&lt;/em&gt;, to do whatever it takes to stop them&quot;.  But they seem to think only they have the right to decide what or who a &quot;Communist&quot; is. And no matter how hard I look, I can&#039;r see any Communists except for a few crackpots in Korea nd Cuba. This is &quot;ends justify the means&quot; thinking and it makes my flesh crawl.

They act, talk and think exactly like the Far Left rabble-rousers I knew in college in the 60s and 70s.  I couldn&#039;t stand them either, even though I was more sympathetic to them politically than I was to their ideological opposites.  

There is a lot more to the current American political division than where to draw the line on taxes, spending, and government.  Look carefully at what is being debated, it&#039;s not just just public administration and economic policy. We&#039;re talking about the philosophy that has brought government-forced vaginal ultrasound probes into the American political debate. 

I just don&#039;t want any part of the America the Right seems to want, and I don&#039;t think most Americans do. And I think that every year more and more Americans realize they don&#039;t want any part of it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all believe in more or less the same things, the key thing to remember is the &#8220;more or less&#8221;. </p>
<p>If I lived in Canada, the UK, or in most of the W European countries, I would probably vote with the Tories, because I believe most European countries (the currently accepted term is &#8220;social democracies&#8221;) lean a bit too far left for my taste. But no, I do not think they are Communists, and I don&#8217;t think they are headed that way, either.  </p>
<p>What really ticks me off is that this new American brand of Conservative seems to see only two alternatives, Soviet Bolshevism, or them.  I don&#8217;t buy it, and I don&#8217;t trust them.  I never voted Republican, but I never feared them until Ronald Reagan.</p>
<p>I may not agree with all Democrats on all their programs, or in how far they might want to push them, but I feel much more comfortable on the American Left than the new American Right.  I find them intolerant, mean, doctrinaire, smug, arrogant, ruthless and self-righteous. They claim to be driven on principle and logic, but willingly choose their allies from the most ignorant, bigoted and toxic segments of society.  They will crawl into bed with anyone as long as they aren&#8217;t Communists. In fact, their guiding principle seems to be &#8220;the Communists want to take over and therefore we are entitled, indeed, <em>obligated</em>, to do whatever it takes to stop them&#8221;.  But they seem to think only they have the right to decide what or who a &#8220;Communist&#8221; is. And no matter how hard I look, I can&#8217;r see any Communists except for a few crackpots in Korea nd Cuba. This is &#8220;ends justify the means&#8221; thinking and it makes my flesh crawl.</p>
<p>They act, talk and think exactly like the Far Left rabble-rousers I knew in college in the 60s and 70s.  I couldn&#8217;t stand them either, even though I was more sympathetic to them politically than I was to their ideological opposites.  </p>
<p>There is a lot more to the current American political division than where to draw the line on taxes, spending, and government.  Look carefully at what is being debated, it&#8217;s not just just public administration and economic policy. We&#8217;re talking about the philosophy that has brought government-forced vaginal ultrasound probes into the American political debate. </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t want any part of the America the Right seems to want, and I don&#8217;t think most Americans do. And I think that every year more and more Americans realize they don&#8217;t want any part of it either.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how there term &quot;tax spending&quot; arose during the Bush administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how there term &#8220;tax spending&#8221; arose during the Bush administration.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans want tax cuts to spur job creation and to avoid class warfare, too.  The more ridiculous they get the deeper into those bunkers they go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans want tax cuts to spur job creation and to avoid class warfare, too.  The more ridiculous they get the deeper into those bunkers they go.</p>
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