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	<title>Comments on: Could someone explain the &#8220;enemy combatant&#8221; angle to me?</title>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/04/23/could-someone-explain-the-enemy-combatant-angle-to-me/#comment-23452</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t have any oil. n/t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t have any oil. n/t</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>though I suspect it was breathlessly written before they did read Miranda to him. I also tend to agree with them on this.
I still don&#039;t get the Graham/McCain objections. 
Anyone else get the impression they&#039;ve had their wits scared out of them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though I suspect it was breathlessly written before they did read Miranda to him. I also tend to agree with them on this.<br />
I still don&#8217;t get the Graham/McCain objections.<br />
Anyone else get the impression they&#8217;ve had their wits scared out of them?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;re unlikely to invade Chechnya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;re unlikely to invade Chechnya</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of us who hoped Obama would bring a truly progressive policy to the White House have been sorely disappointed.  Part of this may be because Obama realizes that there is a great deal of social and cultural inertia in the country, and that the nation is simply not ready for drastic changes.  And some of it may be simply due to his not being intrinsically as far Left as his critics love to paint him, or his followers had wished he had been. I am not being critical here.  Change, even change for the better, can be overdone, especially if it is pushed too hard and too fast.

Basically, I don&#039;t see that much difference between Obama and Bill Clinton. As for health care, there is not that much difference from what Obama achieved and Hillary wanted.  His defense policy, particularly the war on terror, is not that tactically different from Bushes, although it has been carried out much more intelligently strategically.  

In economic policy there is more room for argument, since the conditions after the crash changed everything so profoundly, only time will tell.  Conservatives howl that Obama didn&#039;t fix the economy, and Liberals exult that he saved Capitalism from another Great Depression. They may both be right.  There&#039;s no way to tell now without access to alternate timelines.  

Conservatives fear, and Liberals hope, Obama will be the new Roosevelt.  I suspect he will be remembered by history much like Harry Truman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us who hoped Obama would bring a truly progressive policy to the White House have been sorely disappointed.  Part of this may be because Obama realizes that there is a great deal of social and cultural inertia in the country, and that the nation is simply not ready for drastic changes.  And some of it may be simply due to his not being intrinsically as far Left as his critics love to paint him, or his followers had wished he had been. I am not being critical here.  Change, even change for the better, can be overdone, especially if it is pushed too hard and too fast.</p>
<p>Basically, I don&#8217;t see that much difference between Obama and Bill Clinton. As for health care, there is not that much difference from what Obama achieved and Hillary wanted.  His defense policy, particularly the war on terror, is not that tactically different from Bushes, although it has been carried out much more intelligently strategically.  </p>
<p>In economic policy there is more room for argument, since the conditions after the crash changed everything so profoundly, only time will tell.  Conservatives howl that Obama didn&#8217;t fix the economy, and Liberals exult that he saved Capitalism from another Great Depression. They may both be right.  There&#8217;s no way to tell now without access to alternate timelines.  </p>
<p>Conservatives fear, and Liberals hope, Obama will be the new Roosevelt.  I suspect he will be remembered by history much like Harry Truman.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting to me that by my observation nothing has occurred internationally that has been handled differently from then Bush admin. Of course Bush being Bush he might have put his foot in his mouth a few times but what has actually happened is no different.

Beyond obama care the same goes for domestic. Same old, same old. with the incessant yammering from both sides. A system a old as ours is fairly static. It will take revolution to change in the ways that each side likes to go on and on about. This is not likely since our system is only rather old but not brittle.

Governments liberal or conservative will always find a way to do as they wish and when all else fails there is Martial Law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to me that by my observation nothing has occurred internationally that has been handled differently from then Bush admin. Of course Bush being Bush he might have put his foot in his mouth a few times but what has actually happened is no different.</p>
<p>Beyond obama care the same goes for domestic. Same old, same old. with the incessant yammering from both sides. A system a old as ours is fairly static. It will take revolution to change in the ways that each side likes to go on and on about. This is not likely since our system is only rather old but not brittle.</p>
<p>Governments liberal or conservative will always find a way to do as they wish and when all else fails there is Martial Law.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they have a point, juries are unpredictable, and defense lawyers are fiendishly clever.

I do believe that an enemy soldier or even an un-uniformed guerilla fighting for no flag or civil authority is not due the same legal protection as an American citizen accused of committing a crime in this country. I have no problem with that.

However, in this case, where Tsarnaev is unquestionably a citizen, and the crime is unquestionably committed on American soil, I don&#039;t see any way out of it.

The reading of rights, the Miranda Desision, is not an evil liberal plot to get criminals off the hook. Its been a feature of English Common Law at least since the 30s (the Brits call it &quot;The Caution&quot;), and it has legal precedent that goes far further back than that. I suspect it originated to protect suspects from confessing under torture.

According to Wikipedia, there are comparable civil protections in at least these other countries:

 Equivalent rights in other countries 
13.1 Australia
13.2 Bangladesh
13.3 Canada
13.4 European Union 
13.4.1 England and Wales
13.4.2 France
13.4.3 Germany
13.4.4 Spain
13.5 Hong Kong
13.6 Israel
13.7 New Zealand
13.8 Philippines
13.9 Switzerland
13.10 Thailand
13.11 Ukraine

EDIT:  And as TB has brought to our attention below, it isn&#039;t just Conservatives that tend to wink at legal niceties in time of war.  Even Abraham Lincoln suspended &lt;em&gt;habeas corpus&lt;/em&gt; during the Civil War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they have a point, juries are unpredictable, and defense lawyers are fiendishly clever.</p>
<p>I do believe that an enemy soldier or even an un-uniformed guerilla fighting for no flag or civil authority is not due the same legal protection as an American citizen accused of committing a crime in this country. I have no problem with that.</p>
<p>However, in this case, where Tsarnaev is unquestionably a citizen, and the crime is unquestionably committed on American soil, I don&#8217;t see any way out of it.</p>
<p>The reading of rights, the Miranda Desision, is not an evil liberal plot to get criminals off the hook. Its been a feature of English Common Law at least since the 30s (the Brits call it &#8220;The Caution&#8221;), and it has legal precedent that goes far further back than that. I suspect it originated to protect suspects from confessing under torture.</p>
<p>According to Wikipedia, there are comparable civil protections in at least these other countries:</p>
<p> Equivalent rights in other countries<br />
13.1 Australia<br />
13.2 Bangladesh<br />
13.3 Canada<br />
13.4 European Union<br />
13.4.1 England and Wales<br />
13.4.2 France<br />
13.4.3 Germany<br />
13.4.4 Spain<br />
13.5 Hong Kong<br />
13.6 Israel<br />
13.7 New Zealand<br />
13.8 Philippines<br />
13.9 Switzerland<br />
13.10 Thailand<br />
13.11 Ukraine</p>
<p>EDIT:  And as TB has brought to our attention below, it isn&#8217;t just Conservatives that tend to wink at legal niceties in time of war.  Even Abraham Lincoln suspended <em>habeas corpus</em> during the Civil War.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some background&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112991/boston-bombings-assault-miranda-rights&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some background</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112991/boston-bombings-assault-miranda-rights" rel="nofollow">Here.</a></p>
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