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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/05/12/the-nature-of-the-xenomorphs/#comment-23895</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 03:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear --
&quot;My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!&quot;
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.&#039; 


Percy Bysshe Shelley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met a traveller from an antique land<br />
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone<br />
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,<br />
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,<br />
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,<br />
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read<br />
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,<br />
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.<br />
And on the pedestal these words appear &#8211;<br />
&#8220;My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:<br />
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!&#8221;<br />
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay<br />
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare<br />
The lone and level sands stretch far away.&#8217; </p>
<p>Percy Bysshe Shelley</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/05/12/the-nature-of-the-xenomorphs/#comment-23888</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 01:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Blake, Marriage of Heaven and Hell.</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/05/12/the-nature-of-the-xenomorphs/#comment-23885</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 00:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on your ass won&#039;t get you laid...

But if you&#039;ve ever watched young men combing their hair, you&#039;ll see the same principle is at work.

I&#039;ve often wondered if intelligent aliens have humor.  I know dolphins like to play prankster.  But I guess we don&#039;t even have a good idea what humor is.

The best definition I&#039;ve heard is &quot;an appreciation of the absurdity of existence&quot;.

As for alien raspberries...

&lt;img src=&quot;http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/014/0/e/daffy_duck_by_albadune-d5rgg6n.png&quot; alt=&quot;.&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on your ass won&#8217;t get you laid&#8230;</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;ve ever watched young men combing their hair, you&#8217;ll see the same principle is at work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often wondered if intelligent aliens have humor.  I know dolphins like to play prankster.  But I guess we don&#8217;t even have a good idea what humor is.</p>
<p>The best definition I&#8217;ve heard is &#8220;an appreciation of the absurdity of existence&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for alien raspberries&#8230;</p>
<p><img src="http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/014/0/e/daffy_duck_by_albadune-d5rgg6n.png" alt="." /></p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/05/12/the-nature-of-the-xenomorphs/#comment-23882</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 00:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nature&#039;s way of telling you

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsTK2LHZKPQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;something&#039;s wrong
&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nature&#8217;s way of telling you</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsTK2LHZKPQ" rel="nofollow">something&#8217;s wrong<br />
</a></p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/05/12/the-nature-of-the-xenomorphs/#comment-23881</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 00:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the cold mist in the night
And watch the hills roll out of sight
I learned in every single day
Inside out, outside in, every way

The sun can warm the coldest dawn
And move the movement on the lawn
I watch in every single way
Inside out, yea, outside in, every day

There you are
Makin&#039; it up but you&#039;re sure that it is a star
When all you&#039;ll see
It&#039;s an illusion shining down in front of me
There you&#039;ll say
Even in time we shall control the day
When all you&#039;ll see
Deep inside the day&#039;s controlling you and me

And one peculiar point I see
As one of many ones of me
As truth is gathered, I rearrange
Inside out, outside in
Inside out, outside in
Perpetual change

There you are
Saying we have the moon, so now the stars
When all you see
Is near disaster gazing down on you and me

There you&#039;re standing
Saying we have the whole world in our hands
When all you&#039;ll see
Deep inside the world&#039;s controlling you and me

You&#039;ll see perpetual change
You&#039;ll see perpetual change

Aaa, aaa

There you are
Saying we have the moon, so now the stars
When all you see
Is near disaster gazing down on you and me
There you&#039;re standing
Saying we have the whole world in our hands
When all you&#039;ll see
Deep inside the world&#039;s controlling you and me

As mist and sun are both the same
We look on as, as pawns of their game
They move to testify the day
Inside out, outside in
Inside out, outside in
All of the way
Yea, yea
Ahh, all the way, yea

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Perpetual Change&lt;/strong&gt;
   Jon Anderson and Chris Squire
   Yes: The Yes Album
   1971&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the cold mist in the night<br />
And watch the hills roll out of sight<br />
I learned in every single day<br />
Inside out, outside in, every way</p>
<p>The sun can warm the coldest dawn<br />
And move the movement on the lawn<br />
I watch in every single way<br />
Inside out, yea, outside in, every day</p>
<p>There you are<br />
Makin&#8217; it up but you&#8217;re sure that it is a star<br />
When all you&#8217;ll see<br />
It&#8217;s an illusion shining down in front of me<br />
There you&#8217;ll say<br />
Even in time we shall control the day<br />
When all you&#8217;ll see<br />
Deep inside the day&#8217;s controlling you and me</p>
<p>And one peculiar point I see<br />
As one of many ones of me<br />
As truth is gathered, I rearrange<br />
Inside out, outside in<br />
Inside out, outside in<br />
Perpetual change</p>
<p>There you are<br />
Saying we have the moon, so now the stars<br />
When all you see<br />
Is near disaster gazing down on you and me</p>
<p>There you&#8217;re standing<br />
Saying we have the whole world in our hands<br />
When all you&#8217;ll see<br />
Deep inside the world&#8217;s controlling you and me</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll see perpetual change<br />
You&#8217;ll see perpetual change</p>
<p>Aaa, aaa</p>
<p>There you are<br />
Saying we have the moon, so now the stars<br />
When all you see<br />
Is near disaster gazing down on you and me<br />
There you&#8217;re standing<br />
Saying we have the whole world in our hands<br />
When all you&#8217;ll see<br />
Deep inside the world&#8217;s controlling you and me</p>
<p>As mist and sun are both the same<br />
We look on as, as pawns of their game<br />
They move to testify the day<br />
Inside out, outside in<br />
Inside out, outside in<br />
All of the way<br />
Yea, yea<br />
Ahh, all the way, yea</p>
<p><em><strong>Perpetual Change</strong><br />
   Jon Anderson and Chris Squire<br />
   Yes: The Yes Album<br />
   1971</em></p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/05/12/the-nature-of-the-xenomorphs/#comment-23879</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 00:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I took the opposite point of view.  That a sentient species would be possibly similar to us in many ways, but socially everything they did would be absolutely alien to us.  In the same way that a male human, glueing peacock feathers on his ass would earn odd looks from the opposite sex, rather than offers to mate. 
 
The model of the behavior that I wrote through demonstrated something akin to our sense of humor+joking+laughter.  It was a deliberate and obvious telling of a lie concerning the size of something.  When the alien jokester had done a good job the listeners would respond by making a buzzing sound by forcing air through lips pressed tightly together (similar to &quot;raspberries&quot;). 
 
It did not get written because (as is usual for me) I could not come up with a plot that I liked enough to hang my ideas around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I took the opposite point of view.  That a sentient species would be possibly similar to us in many ways, but socially everything they did would be absolutely alien to us.  In the same way that a male human, glueing peacock feathers on his ass would earn odd looks from the opposite sex, rather than offers to mate. </p>
<p>The model of the behavior that I wrote through demonstrated something akin to our sense of humor+joking+laughter.  It was a deliberate and obvious telling of a lie concerning the size of something.  When the alien jokester had done a good job the listeners would respond by making a buzzing sound by forcing air through lips pressed tightly together (similar to &#8220;raspberries&#8221;). </p>
<p>It did not get written because (as is usual for me) I could not come up with a plot that I liked enough to hang my ideas around.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/05/12/the-nature-of-the-xenomorphs/#comment-23877</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 22:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have glimpsed the mystery. And it is just beyond your grasp, elusive, yet undeniable.

It is not the mask. It is what&#039;s behind the mask.  It tasks you, it heaps you. It gives you no rest, but it gives you great joy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have glimpsed the mystery. And it is just beyond your grasp, elusive, yet undeniable.</p>
<p>It is not the mask. It is what&#8217;s behind the mask.  It tasks you, it heaps you. It gives you no rest, but it gives you great joy.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/05/12/the-nature-of-the-xenomorphs/#comment-23875</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 21:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read this article in Wired on a recent flight: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/03/powers-of-swarms/all/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How the Science of Swarms Can Help Us Fight Cancer and Predict the Future&lt;/a&gt;. I think you&#039;ll find it thought provoking.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Biologists are used to convergent evolution, like the streamlining of dolphins and sharks or echolocation in bats and whales—animals from separate lineages have similar adaptations. But convergent evolution of algorithms? Either all these collectives came up with different behaviors that produce the same outcomes—head-butting bees, neighbor-watching starlings, light-dodging golden shiners—or some basic rules underlie everything and the behaviors are the bridge from the rules to the collective.

Stephen Wolfram would probably say it’s the underlying rules. The British mathematician and inventor of the indispensable software Mathematica published a backbreaking 1,200-page book in 2002, A New Kind of Science, positing that emergent properties embodied by collectives came from simple programs that drove the complexity of snowflakes, shells, the brain, even the universe itself. Wolfram promised that his book would lead the way to uncovering those algorithms, but he never quite got there.

Couzin, on the other hand, is wary of claims that his field has hit upon the secret to life, the universe, and everything. “I’m very cautious about suggesting that there’ll be an underlying theory that’ll explain the stock market and neural systems and fish schools,” he says. “That’s relatively naive. There’s a danger in thinking that one equation fits all.” Physics predicts the interactions of his locusts, but the mechanism manifests through cannibalism. Math didn’t produce the biology; biology generated the math.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read this article in Wired on a recent flight: <a href="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/03/powers-of-swarms/all/" rel="nofollow">How the Science of Swarms Can Help Us Fight Cancer and Predict the Future</a>. I think you&#8217;ll find it thought provoking.</p>
<blockquote><p>Biologists are used to convergent evolution, like the streamlining of dolphins and sharks or echolocation in bats and whales—animals from separate lineages have similar adaptations. But convergent evolution of algorithms? Either all these collectives came up with different behaviors that produce the same outcomes—head-butting bees, neighbor-watching starlings, light-dodging golden shiners—or some basic rules underlie everything and the behaviors are the bridge from the rules to the collective.</p>
<p>Stephen Wolfram would probably say it’s the underlying rules. The British mathematician and inventor of the indispensable software Mathematica published a backbreaking 1,200-page book in 2002, A New Kind of Science, positing that emergent properties embodied by collectives came from simple programs that drove the complexity of snowflakes, shells, the brain, even the universe itself. Wolfram promised that his book would lead the way to uncovering those algorithms, but he never quite got there.</p>
<p>Couzin, on the other hand, is wary of claims that his field has hit upon the secret to life, the universe, and everything. “I’m very cautious about suggesting that there’ll be an underlying theory that’ll explain the stock market and neural systems and fish schools,” he says. “That’s relatively naive. There’s a danger in thinking that one equation fits all.” Physics predicts the interactions of his locusts, but the mechanism manifests through cannibalism. Math didn’t produce the biology; biology generated the math.
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