(Continued from thread below, “CO2 scary trend”, comment: “But there IS a crisis”)
Yes, Tom, we definitely do have a crisis, a crisis which could exceed anything political or economic. Its potentially the worst possible world wide crisis since the Black Death. And it might even be worse than that.
And what was your response? You dutifully parroted every fall-back position the denialist community and their corporate bankrollers could come up with. It was the same old conservative cop-out they used to disparage the tobacco-cancer connection, or to attack common sense gun control; or anything that might raise taxes, increase regulation or threaten profits.
First you denied there was any evidence of warming at all; it was a UN Socialist climatologist conspiracy. You didn’t attack the data, you questioned the motives of its sources.
Then it was a lack of scientific consensus in interpreting the data, coupled with hysterical journalists, whiny green liberal crybabies and opportunistic bureaucrats.
Then you claimed it was a merely an exaggerated anomaly or a statistical outlier that would soon damp out, or it was just a natural, short-term variation in earth’s climate, “noise in the data” coupled with selective reporting bias.
When that didn’t wash, you moved to a long-term variation, a natural cycle we could do nothing about because it had happened in similar ways throughout earth’s history.
Then you decided it was an unexpected natural phenomenon, sunspots or cosmic rays or orbital variations or some other ad hoc nonsense. Every new excuse surfacing in the denialist propaganda machine was dutifully brought up as soon as some shill could think it up.
Now, when your last fall-back position has been overrun and the Nips are inside the wire, you tell us the real problem is other countries, and that there is nothing we can do about it anyway. So what is the solution, to do nothing but “Drill baby, drill” in an ice-free Arctic?
Business (excuse my French) as usual?
It has finally come to the point where even you are starting to see the inevitability and gravity of this problem. But have you made even the slightest acknowledgement of this and come up with any suggestions of your own? No, as the bloggers like to snark, its all crickets on your side. Maybe its just as simple as not wanting to admit the liberals were right about something, and you weren’t.
You have been moving heaven and earth, and your corporate allies have been spending fortunes, conducting an unprecedented propaganda offensive and lobbying politicans to convince people there is no problem. And now you have the fucking audacity to blame the greens because they can’t come up with a solution.
Tom, I just don’t believe you any more, about anything that might contradict your meticulously devised and delusional ideological model of reality. I know you are an intrinsically honest person, but you can’t be trusted to see the truth, so its highly unlikely you can speak it.
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Point of argument:
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Your basic German citizen in the '30s and '40s denied the Holocaust, too.
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If you actually believe that this environmental drive to statism...
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"Personally I believe..."
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Apples and oranges, actually more like watermelons and grapes.
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Apples and oranges
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Fine. What about the IPCC graph?
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Am I being lectured on "changing the subject?" :)
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If the crisis goes, then they will no longer serve a purpose, will they?
- Simpy declaring your opposition a loser doesn't make it so. Shades of Davin. (miss the guy). n/t
- Job security
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If the crisis goes, then they will no longer serve a purpose, will they?
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Am I being lectured on "changing the subject?" :)
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Fine. What about the IPCC graph?
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Apples and oranges
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Apples and oranges, actually more like watermelons and grapes.
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"Personally I believe..."
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Your basic German citizen in the '30s and '40s denied the Holocaust, too.