Comments on: Science and religion https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/ Fri, 03 Apr 2026 22:41:18 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: johannes https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24921 johannes Thu, 11 Jul 2013 04:20:17 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24921 But, I can not comprehend how mindlessness could create something useful, could you extrapolate on that concept? But, I can not comprehend how mindlessness could create something useful, could you extrapolate on that concept?

]]> By: johannes https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24920 johannes Thu, 11 Jul 2013 04:09:45 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24920 The creativity of the people in the past has given us more complexity in various things such as vehicles and computers. I suspect that useful complexity must have a creative mind behind it. I can not comprehend how random or mindless arrangement of anything could produce useful complexity. Oops, about the double post below, can you remove the other one? Thanks The creativity of the people in the past has given us more complexity in various things such as vehicles and computers.
I suspect that useful complexity must have a creative mind behind it.
I can not comprehend how random or mindless arrangement of anything could produce useful complexity.

Oops, about the double post below, can you remove the other one? Thanks

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24919 podrock Thu, 11 Jul 2013 03:39:00 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24919 .....complexity is beautiful. Complex systems evolved to the point where I can appreciate that beauty. Science opens my mind with observations at ever vaster scales. I am saying that mindless complexity has produced everything. One thing I am pretty sure of is that the universe doesn't exist for us. We're a sideshow - way, way, way off Broadway. …..complexity is beautiful. Complex systems evolved to the point where I can appreciate that beauty. Science opens my mind with observations at ever vaster scales.

I am saying that mindless complexity has produced everything.

One thing I am pretty sure of is that the universe doesn’t exist for us. We’re a sideshow – way, way, way off Broadway.

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24917 podrock Thu, 11 Jul 2013 03:08:24 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24917 no. that's not what I am saying. no. that’s not what I am saying.

]]> By: johannes https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24916 johannes Thu, 11 Jul 2013 03:04:40 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24916 we are nothing more than mindless robots? we are nothing more than mindless robots?

]]> By: johannes https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24915 johannes Thu, 11 Jul 2013 02:58:10 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24915 despite having complex brains we are nothing more than mindless robots? despite having complex brains we are nothing more than mindless robots?

]]> By: johannes https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24914 johannes Thu, 11 Jul 2013 02:36:12 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24914 Naturally that takes into consideration the assumption that the energy has the form or intelligence that we understand as being a human being. The scientists do not understand such a concept, perhaps because they can not dissect the process. To such a scientist the human being is nothing more that a robot that grows according to some self included programming, and also learns and thinks in a way that is also self programmed. According to that way of thinking, when the plug is pulled, the energy simply dissipates into the environment, since it is nothing more than chemical heat in the first place. (That is a scary thought in my opinion.) Naturally that takes into consideration the assumption that the energy has the form or intelligence that we understand as being a human being.
The scientists do not understand such a concept, perhaps because they can not dissect the process.
To such a scientist the human being is nothing more that a robot that grows according to some self included programming, and also learns and thinks in a way that is also self programmed.
According to that way of thinking, when the plug is pulled, the energy simply dissipates into the environment, since it is nothing more than chemical heat in the first place. (That is a scary thought in my opinion.)

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24913 podrock Thu, 11 Jul 2013 02:18:16 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24913 There are those that postulate that the purpose of this universe is to create new universes. Check out the Cosmological Natural Selection Hypothesis: <a href="http://http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2013/130504.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2013/130504.html</a> "we find no vestige of a beginning,–no prospect of an end." James Hutton, 1788, Natural Philosopher "...same as it ever was, same as it ever was..." David Byrne, 1981, The Talking Heads There are those that postulate that the purpose of this universe is to create new universes.

Check out the Cosmological Natural Selection Hypothesis:

http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2013/130504.html

“we find no vestige of a beginning,–no prospect of an end.”
James Hutton, 1788, Natural Philosopher

“…same as it ever was, same as it ever was…”
David Byrne, 1981, The Talking Heads

]]> By: podrock https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24912 podrock Thu, 11 Jul 2013 02:03:28 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24912 I say that complexity causes creativity. Simple systems, interacting, results in complexity, which results in novel things. Like the creativity of the human brain. But there is no mind behind complexity. I say that complexity causes creativity.

Simple systems, interacting, results in complexity, which results in novel things.

Like the creativity of the human brain.

But there is no mind behind complexity.

]]> By: Jody https://habitablezone.com/2013/06/29/science-and-religion/#comment-24911 Jody Thu, 11 Jul 2013 01:02:06 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=34287#comment-24911 but this caught my eye. "if life is energy then how can it disappear?" Re-incarnation. but this caught my eye.

“if life is energy then how can it disappear?”

Re-incarnation.

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