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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25782</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was a kid, we could go almost anywhere in our town or down by the creek.  We had to be home by specific times, and it never hurt to give Mom some rough idea where I was going to be, but other than that, our time was ours.

We called it &quot;playing outside.&quot;  We spent time with friends, climbed things, caught critters, built stuff, explored, and figured out how to do things on our own.

Did we watch TV?  Sure we did. Saturday mornings, especially. After all, we had all those channels to pick from, although only that one neighbor had a color set.

And I read. Lots.

Nothing &quot;noble&quot; or &quot;superior&quot; about this. It&#039;s what was there. God knows if &quot;Halo&quot; had been available back then I would have been on it like white on rice.  But I can&#039;t help wondering what kind of adults we&#039;re turning out as far as individual initiative is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a kid, we could go almost anywhere in our town or down by the creek.  We had to be home by specific times, and it never hurt to give Mom some rough idea where I was going to be, but other than that, our time was ours.</p>
<p>We called it &#8220;playing outside.&#8221;  We spent time with friends, climbed things, caught critters, built stuff, explored, and figured out how to do things on our own.</p>
<p>Did we watch TV?  Sure we did. Saturday mornings, especially. After all, we had all those channels to pick from, although only that one neighbor had a color set.</p>
<p>And I read. Lots.</p>
<p>Nothing &#8220;noble&#8221; or &#8220;superior&#8221; about this. It&#8217;s what was there. God knows if &#8220;Halo&#8221; had been available back then I would have been on it like white on rice.  But I can&#8217;t help wondering what kind of adults we&#8217;re turning out as far as individual initiative is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25779</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until they&#039;re 50.</description>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25776</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll see your call and raise you three kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll see your call and raise you three kids.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25763</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 03:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone wants to see that they never learn to be independent.  It&#039;s all programmed, they are  watched, hounded, have Little League organized by, and for, adults, and so on.  Teaching them they are incompetent from the get-go, depriving them of the satisfaction of having accomplished something.

It&#039;s a shame.  I could go on about the freedoms I had as a child, some of it bordering on abuse, but it would do no good.

Too bad.  There&#039;s no reason an 8 year-old couldn&#039;t fly on an airplane by themselves.  Absolutely none, the kid could develop some self-confidence.

Now THAT threatens some adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone wants to see that they never learn to be independent.  It&#8217;s all programmed, they are  watched, hounded, have Little League organized by, and for, adults, and so on.  Teaching them they are incompetent from the get-go, depriving them of the satisfaction of having accomplished something.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame.  I could go on about the freedoms I had as a child, some of it bordering on abuse, but it would do no good.</p>
<p>Too bad.  There&#8217;s no reason an 8 year-old couldn&#8217;t fly on an airplane by themselves.  Absolutely none, the kid could develop some self-confidence.</p>
<p>Now THAT threatens some adults.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25712</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say, but a very traumatic ( to my six year old) experience befell my daughter in the way back. She went camping with her Girl Scout troop, and it turns out my daughter has a SEVERE phobia of the woods. OMG..the camping trip from bloody HELL.

She was so excited about going...until we rounded the corner and started driving through the woods.

I think Jordyn has issues from that experience. I know I do. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t say, but a very traumatic ( to my six year old) experience befell my daughter in the way back. She went camping with her Girl Scout troop, and it turns out my daughter has a SEVERE phobia of the woods. OMG..the camping trip from bloody HELL.</p>
<p>She was so excited about going&#8230;until we rounded the corner and started driving through the woods.</p>
<p>I think Jordyn has issues from that experience. I know I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25710</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually feel better knowing others go through the same thing...and survived to tell about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually feel better knowing others go through the same thing&#8230;and survived to tell about it.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25707</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t clear to me that your daughter was frightened and unhappy at the prospect. That&#039;s a bit different.

I had a couple of occasions where I had to &quot;push a kid out of the nest&quot; a bit, encouraging them into adventures they were getting cold feet on.  They did fine. When they were gone, I was a mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t clear to me that your daughter was frightened and unhappy at the prospect. That&#8217;s a bit different.</p>
<p>I had a couple of occasions where I had to &#8220;push a kid out of the nest&#8221; a bit, encouraging them into adventures they were getting cold feet on.  They did fine. When they were gone, I was a mess.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25704</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I had to put my daughter on a plane by herself once a year.  I think that started when she was 9.  AT THAT TIME (20 years ago) you told the attendant about the situation, and they would take special care to see that the child arrived safely.  It was fine with my daughter since she liked flying.  
 
Though the first time I put her on a plane (and would be separated from her for 9 months) I completely broke down at the airport.  I kept it together long enough to get her seated (they let me on the plane to do that).  Though there was a man sitting in her seat.  He &quot;thought it was unoccupied&quot; so he was giving himself an upgrade.  I was so emotional already that I only barely kept myself from assaulting him.  It was a bad day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I had to put my daughter on a plane by herself once a year.  I think that started when she was 9.  AT THAT TIME (20 years ago) you told the attendant about the situation, and they would take special care to see that the child arrived safely.  It was fine with my daughter since she liked flying.  </p>
<p>Though the first time I put her on a plane (and would be separated from her for 9 months) I completely broke down at the airport.  I kept it together long enough to get her seated (they let me on the plane to do that).  Though there was a man sitting in her seat.  He &#8220;thought it was unoccupied&#8221; so he was giving himself an upgrade.  I was so emotional already that I only barely kept myself from assaulting him.  It was a bad day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25697</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2013 02:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The young parents do things so differently than me. 

I have a PhD. in worry so I really am not a good compass for these kind of things. 

My daughter called up crying. The Daddy did it without conferring with the mommy. 
But between me and you I am sure she would have been okay.

That is what I kept telling myself until my daughter asked me if I would have done it when she was little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The young parents do things so differently than me. </p>
<p>I have a PhD. in worry so I really am not a good compass for these kind of things. </p>
<p>My daughter called up crying. The Daddy did it without conferring with the mommy.<br />
But between me and you I am sure she would have been okay.</p>
<p>That is what I kept telling myself until my daughter asked me if I would have done it when she was little.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/07/29/but-mama/#comment-25695</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2013 01:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was younger, airlines were pretty good at taking care of kids on these flights, but I have no experience in latter years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was younger, airlines were pretty good at taking care of kids on these flights, but I have no experience in latter years.</p>
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