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	<title>Comments on: Are you an asker&#8230;or a doer?</title>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25905</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 19:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For real!!!!!!!Everyone here on the Zone has such different stories...circumstances...to put it within parameters was extremely hard for me. A general statement was all inclusive and I just thought everybody could answer setting their own parameters. Does this make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For real!!!!!!!Everyone here on the Zone has such different stories&#8230;circumstances&#8230;to put it within parameters was extremely hard for me. A general statement was all inclusive and I just thought everybody could answer setting their own parameters. Does this make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25902</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 15:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this &quot;retirement&quot; of which you speak?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this &#8220;retirement&#8221; of which you speak?</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25900</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, we all agreed on that from the start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, we all agreed on that from the start.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25898</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew!  In other words you agree he is an asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew!  In other words you agree he is an asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25897</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 02:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stealing from the community is often excused (or even encouraged)because the community is not a person, and is allegedly not entitled to own property, or is incapabable of exploiting the property wisely.  

At some times in our history we have stolen the freedom and labor of others, because we felt they were incapable of using it as wisely as we could, and we stole the land and resources of others because they failed, in our opinion, to exploit it &quot;productively&quot;.  Perhaps it is the very act of owning that is malignant and toxic and carries within it the arrogance to dictate whether or not others are entitled to the fruits of their own labor, or the produce of their own land.

We are all entitled to our property, those things we have made with our own labor, or traded fairly for with others.  But that is not the same as seeing the world as merely a collection of equivalent commodities, things with no intrinsic value except for their abstract capacity to be exchanged for other things, and where that abstract value can be manipulated and distorted until it no longer bears any relation to human needs or desires or the human labor that made it possible. Human relations are not subordinate to commercial activity, and those incapable or unwilling to engage in that activity must not be dismissed as unworthy or undeserving of life itself. The origin of all wealth is the resources of the earth and the labor of men who transform them into useful things.  

A man who cuts down the trees in his village for his own personal use is not free, or clever, or bold, or dashing, he is a jackal, a locust who would piss upstream, poison the wells or fish with dynamite. He is worse than the man who steals fruit from your orchard, he is the man who burns your trees for firewood simply because he is cold. He is the man who shoots the buffalo for their hides alone and leaves the flesh and bones to go to waste and their carcasses to rot on the prarie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stealing from the community is often excused (or even encouraged)because the community is not a person, and is allegedly not entitled to own property, or is incapabable of exploiting the property wisely.  </p>
<p>At some times in our history we have stolen the freedom and labor of others, because we felt they were incapable of using it as wisely as we could, and we stole the land and resources of others because they failed, in our opinion, to exploit it &#8220;productively&#8221;.  Perhaps it is the very act of owning that is malignant and toxic and carries within it the arrogance to dictate whether or not others are entitled to the fruits of their own labor, or the produce of their own land.</p>
<p>We are all entitled to our property, those things we have made with our own labor, or traded fairly for with others.  But that is not the same as seeing the world as merely a collection of equivalent commodities, things with no intrinsic value except for their abstract capacity to be exchanged for other things, and where that abstract value can be manipulated and distorted until it no longer bears any relation to human needs or desires or the human labor that made it possible. Human relations are not subordinate to commercial activity, and those incapable or unwilling to engage in that activity must not be dismissed as unworthy or undeserving of life itself. The origin of all wealth is the resources of the earth and the labor of men who transform them into useful things.  </p>
<p>A man who cuts down the trees in his village for his own personal use is not free, or clever, or bold, or dashing, he is a jackal, a locust who would piss upstream, poison the wells or fish with dynamite. He is worse than the man who steals fruit from your orchard, he is the man who burns your trees for firewood simply because he is cold. He is the man who shoots the buffalo for their hides alone and leaves the flesh and bones to go to waste and their carcasses to rot on the prarie.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25896</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 01:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not his property, he took them from the community that did own them.

In legal terms, it&#039;s called illegal taking.

Theft, in other words.

&lt;img src=&quot;https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Baretta_Title_Screen.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not his property, he took them from the community that did own them.</p>
<p>In legal terms, it&#8217;s called illegal taking.</p>
<p>Theft, in other words.</p>
<p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Baretta_Title_Screen.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25895</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 00:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....at this point in your life, as a person who sees his life winding down towards retirement...how&#039;s that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.at this point in your life, as a person who sees his life winding down towards retirement&#8230;how&#8217;s that?</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25889</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 22:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hence the importance of context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hence the importance of context.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25887</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 22:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the trees he cut were indeed a precious part of the neighborhood environment, then he is indeed an asshole.

On the other hand, if the trees were of no particular value but were  protected by idiotic bylaws that we know are often part of many HOA, I might applaud him for telling them to stick it in their ear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the trees he cut were indeed a precious part of the neighborhood environment, then he is indeed an asshole.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if the trees were of no particular value but were  protected by idiotic bylaws that we know are often part of many HOA, I might applaud him for telling them to stick it in their ear.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/04/are-you-an-asker-or-a-doer/#comment-25883</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2013 20:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am both</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am both</p>
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