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	<title>Comments on: So, what&#8217;s the deal with the rodeo clown with the Obama mask being banned?</title>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/08/15/so-whats-the-deal-with-the-rodeo-clown-with-the-obama-mask-being-banned/#comment-26187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree Bowser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree Bowser.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 03:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People coming for &#039;family entertainment&#039; as watching animals being tortured (why do you think they are bucking?) would clearly enjoy seeing a blackface mocking of the president, too.  

Most of the rest of us would find both offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People coming for &#8216;family entertainment&#8217; as watching animals being tortured (why do you think they are bucking?) would clearly enjoy seeing a blackface mocking of the president, too.  </p>
<p>Most of the rest of us would find both offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 00:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what humans are capable of against animals. 

I am growing so intolerant of it that you may see this old goat on the front page news some day where I have taken a goddamn baseball bat to an animal abuser.

..or a child abuser.

If they arrest me I won&#039;t have to cook so it is a win win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what humans are capable of against animals. </p>
<p>I am growing so intolerant of it that you may see this old goat on the front page news some day where I have taken a goddamn baseball bat to an animal abuser.</p>
<p>..or a child abuser.</p>
<p>If they arrest me I won&#8217;t have to cook so it is a win win.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 23:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like there is abuse that should not be tolerated. If they eliminated rodeo altogether it would not bother me. I assume there are a lot of people who would like to see more regulation.

There is a big difference in abusing animals for human entertainment and using animals for entertainment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like there is abuse that should not be tolerated. If they eliminated rodeo altogether it would not bother me. I assume there are a lot of people who would like to see more regulation.</p>
<p>There is a big difference in abusing animals for human entertainment and using animals for entertainment</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can&#039;t help them, at least don&#039;t hurt them.”
Dalai Lama


I concur. No organization has ever had to tell me this. I am on my own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Our prime purpose in this life is to help others. And if you can&#8217;t help them, at least don&#8217;t hurt them.”<br />
Dalai Lama</p>
<p>I concur. No organization has ever had to tell me this. I am on my own.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not quite sure if Democrat Governor Nixon was involved in any of this. The condemnation of the clown was a tweet from the Lieutenant Governor, who is a Republican, according to the website Jody pointed us to.

This is a tempest in a teapot.  The rodeo organizers are doing public relations, they don&#039;t want to lose business over this, and they are willing to throw the clown under the bus to cover their butts. The NAACP is doing their usual squealing on anything that even remotely can be considered as racism. Embarassing racists and condemning racism, whether it is legitimate or not, is their job, and it is constitutionally protected free speech also.

I think what the clown did &lt;em&gt;as a performer&lt;/em&gt; was also constitutionally protected free speech, even if it was racist and offensive (and yes it was). His firing was unjust, and probably against the law. But there has also been a gleeful flap about this from the Conservative blogosphere, those guys are always whining about how they are being ground under the statist heel of the Liberal thugs. Those poor babies, they are so abused.  

Saturday Night Live, not exactly what you might call a Republican propaganda organ, has skewered Obama a number of times, with both black actors and whites in blackface. No one, Left or Right, cared.  

Poking fun at our elected officials is never to be questioned, when we are forced to be obsequious to them, when caricature, satire and parody are forbidden, you can kiss our freedom goodbye.  So even if this particular incident was offensive and racist, (and I believe it was) we must never use the power of the government to attack that right, or punish those who exercise it. 

But if private groups want to object and pressure and demand, that is their right too.  And if Conservatives are upset about that, then it must be working, exactly the way its supposed to, and I&#039;m all for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure if Democrat Governor Nixon was involved in any of this. The condemnation of the clown was a tweet from the Lieutenant Governor, who is a Republican, according to the website Jody pointed us to.</p>
<p>This is a tempest in a teapot.  The rodeo organizers are doing public relations, they don&#8217;t want to lose business over this, and they are willing to throw the clown under the bus to cover their butts. The NAACP is doing their usual squealing on anything that even remotely can be considered as racism. Embarassing racists and condemning racism, whether it is legitimate or not, is their job, and it is constitutionally protected free speech also.</p>
<p>I think what the clown did <em>as a performer</em> was also constitutionally protected free speech, even if it was racist and offensive (and yes it was). His firing was unjust, and probably against the law. But there has also been a gleeful flap about this from the Conservative blogosphere, those guys are always whining about how they are being ground under the statist heel of the Liberal thugs. Those poor babies, they are so abused.  </p>
<p>Saturday Night Live, not exactly what you might call a Republican propaganda organ, has skewered Obama a number of times, with both black actors and whites in blackface. No one, Left or Right, cared.  </p>
<p>Poking fun at our elected officials is never to be questioned, when we are forced to be obsequious to them, when caricature, satire and parody are forbidden, you can kiss our freedom goodbye.  So even if this particular incident was offensive and racist, (and I believe it was) we must never use the power of the government to attack that right, or punish those who exercise it. </p>
<p>But if private groups want to object and pressure and demand, that is their right too.  And if Conservatives are upset about that, then it must be working, exactly the way its supposed to, and I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 08:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they were hanged by people who thought that hanging black people was a fine thing.  Because of that, one has a sensitivity to it that one might not have about hanging a white.  And the act may have a different meaning attached to it than hanging a white.  (either in reality or in effigy)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they were hanged by people who thought that hanging black people was a fine thing.  Because of that, one has a sensitivity to it that one might not have about hanging a white.  And the act may have a different meaning attached to it than hanging a white.  (either in reality or in effigy)</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 07:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>depending on ones opinion.

The point is that either act applied to Obama makes it a racial thing. 

Can you imagine the outcry if Obama were hanged in effigy. It would probably be quite a big deal in spite of the fact that hanging politicians in effigy has been around forever.

I doubt that it would faze Obama. He has no racial insecurity. It is the race baiters who would raise the outcry and hawk their indignation. 

It is the unwillingness to treat Obama or any other rich and/or powerful black person identically to their white counterparts that pisses me off.

I think the Governor was dumb not to let it pass but having done it, too much was made of the incident by the media. 

How do you think it would it have played out if the potus involved had been George Bush or Bill Clinton?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>depending on ones opinion.</p>
<p>The point is that either act applied to Obama makes it a racial thing. </p>
<p>Can you imagine the outcry if Obama were hanged in effigy. It would probably be quite a big deal in spite of the fact that hanging politicians in effigy has been around forever.</p>
<p>I doubt that it would faze Obama. He has no racial insecurity. It is the race baiters who would raise the outcry and hawk their indignation. </p>
<p>It is the unwillingness to treat Obama or any other rich and/or powerful black person identically to their white counterparts that pisses me off.</p>
<p>I think the Governor was dumb not to let it pass but having done it, too much was made of the incident by the media. </p>
<p>How do you think it would it have played out if the potus involved had been George Bush or Bill Clinton?</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 06:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...it would not be treason (assuming).  Regardless, hanging in effigy is probably a bit worse than suggesting that the president be run over by a bull?  I think it is crazy to try to differentiate them.  
  
Do you think one of these acts is fine and the other one is bad, somehow?  If so, I&#039;d like to hear your reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;it would not be treason (assuming).  Regardless, hanging in effigy is probably a bit worse than suggesting that the president be run over by a bull?  I think it is crazy to try to differentiate them.  </p>
<p>Do you think one of these acts is fine and the other one is bad, somehow?  If so, I&#8217;d like to hear your reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 06:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is hanging in effigy joking about killing?

Should it be banned, perhaps made a hate crime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is hanging in effigy joking about killing?</p>
<p>Should it be banned, perhaps made a hate crime?</p>
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