Comments on: 12 shot dead in Navy Yard – Obama did nothing – this is not the time to discuss gun control. https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/ Tue, 07 Apr 2026 19:18:10 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/#comment-26833 bowser Wed, 18 Sep 2013 02:36:01 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=37867#comment-26833 Another round of "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" from the NRA. More BS about more Americans being armed would prevent violence? More crap about gun education being the key to gun safety. (I will submit that this guy knew a lot about guns, didn't need more education.) America lives a long ways away from common sense in many, many areas, but the NRA seems to brag about it more than anyone else. Another round of “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people” from the NRA.

More BS about more Americans being armed would prevent violence?

More crap about gun education being the key to gun safety. (I will submit that this guy knew a lot about guns, didn’t need more education.)

America lives a long ways away from common sense in many, many areas, but the NRA seems to brag about it more than anyone else.

]]> By: FrankC https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/#comment-26826 FrankC Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:22:09 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=37867#comment-26826 10% of America can manufacture high capacity magazines in their garage. Against the law? So are a lot of things. 10% of America can manufacture high capacity magazines in their garage. Against the law? So are a lot of things.

]]> By: TB https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/#comment-26821 TB Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:48:11 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=37867#comment-26821 <p>Heh.</p> CNN worked it out. <img src="http://danaloeschradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Screen-Shot-2013-09-16-at-10.02.38-PM.png" alt="" width="300" /> Heh.

CNN worked it out.

]]> By: TB https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/#comment-26819 TB Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:39:46 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=37867#comment-26819 <p>An update:</p> Now the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/us/navy-yard-shooting-knowns-unknowns/index.html?hpt=us_c1" rel="nofollow">news</a> is telling us that three weapons were recovered: the shotgun he brought onto the base, and two handguns he picked up on the base. No automatic rifle. Basically, a shotgun it would be legal to own even in England, and two harvested weapons, neither of them an AR-15. If this is true (and given the media's performance so far, who knows), the AR-15 apparently never existed in the first place, which raises the question of how it was inserted into the story. An update:

Now the news is telling us that three weapons were recovered: the shotgun he brought onto the base, and two handguns he picked up on the base. No automatic rifle.

Basically, a shotgun it would be legal to own even in England, and two harvested weapons, neither of them an AR-15.

If this is true (and given the media’s performance so far, who knows), the AR-15 apparently never existed in the first place, which raises the question of how it was inserted into the story.

]]> By: TB https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/#comment-26813 TB Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:58:34 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=37867#comment-26813 <p>Not sure all those laws would have helped much, either.</p> <a href="http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Confirmed-Shooter-at-Navy-Yard-One-Person-Shot-223897891.html" rel="nofollow">News stories</a> say that the gunman entered the facility with a legally-purchased shotgun, and acquired the other weapons from security personnel he shot. Keep in mind early news stories are not that reliable. Not sure all those laws would have helped much, either.

News stories say that the gunman entered the facility with a legally-purchased shotgun, and acquired the other weapons from security personnel he shot.

Keep in mind early news stories are not that reliable.

]]> By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/#comment-26811 bowser Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:40:17 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=37867#comment-26811 And again, every word is true. And again, every word is true.

]]> By: RobVG https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/#comment-26810 RobVG Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:35:25 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=37867#comment-26810 I see. But the important point is the opportunity lost. n/t I see. But the important point is the opportunity lost. n/t

]]> By: bowser https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/#comment-26807 bowser Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:00:39 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=37867#comment-26807 Exaggeration is a legitimate way to illustrate ridiculousness. Exaggeration is a legitimate way to illustrate ridiculousness.

]]> By: RobVG https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/16/12-shot-dead-in-navy-yard-obama-did-nothing-this-is-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control/#comment-26806 RobVG Tue, 17 Sep 2013 01:13:16 +0000 http://www.habitablezone.com/?p=37867#comment-26806 The total assholes in the gun control camp squandered a real chance to make a difference after the Sandy Hook shooting. Poles showed that gun owners were then open to a ban on high cap magazines, enacting stiffer laws regarding proxy purchases, reporting private sales,and closing the gun show loophole. What did they do? They tried and failed to reinstate a sweeping version of the '94 assault weapons ban. Kudos. The total assholes in the gun control camp squandered a real chance to make a difference after the Sandy Hook shooting. Poles showed that gun owners were then open to a ban on high cap magazines, enacting stiffer laws regarding proxy purchases, reporting private sales,and closing the gun show loophole.

What did they do? They tried and failed to reinstate a sweeping version of the ’94 assault weapons ban. Kudos.

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