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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/20/photos-from-our-past/#comment-26921</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 19:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You can find all the details of the project...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://history.nasa.gov/SP39Chimpanzee.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here.&lt;/a&gt;

Remember back then that we didn&#039;t really know for sure &lt;em&gt;what&lt;/em&gt; the hell space would really do to complex organisms, never mind primates.  This was back in the &quot;what if the lunar lander sinks into a hundred feet of dust?&quot; era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find all the details of the project&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://history.nasa.gov/SP39Chimpanzee.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here.</a></p>
<p>Remember back then that we didn&#8217;t really know for sure <em>what</em> the hell space would really do to complex organisms, never mind primates.  This was back in the &#8220;what if the lunar lander sinks into a hundred feet of dust?&#8221; era.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/20/photos-from-our-past/#comment-26918</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 17:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>left to me any progress we have made dependent on this would still be undiscovered.

I am not sure how I feel about the chimps being sent to space. Do the electric shock they received reach the point of torture or are they simply mildly unpleasant? I have assumed that aversion training does not require torturous shocks. It also seems that any aversion training should have been pre-flight and no more than one or two mild reminders should be required in flight. 

I would like to know more from those who did it vs those who reported it.

As for sending them in the first place since they intended to return them alive, I can only say I am glad not to make those decisions and I am glad we have moved past this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>left to me any progress we have made dependent on this would still be undiscovered.</p>
<p>I am not sure how I feel about the chimps being sent to space. Do the electric shock they received reach the point of torture or are they simply mildly unpleasant? I have assumed that aversion training does not require torturous shocks. It also seems that any aversion training should have been pre-flight and no more than one or two mild reminders should be required in flight. </p>
<p>I would like to know more from those who did it vs those who reported it.</p>
<p>As for sending them in the first place since they intended to return them alive, I can only say I am glad not to make those decisions and I am glad we have moved past this.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/20/photos-from-our-past/#comment-26912</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 05:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/11/the-horrible-thing-that-happened-to-enos-the-chimp-when-he-orbited-earth-50-years-ago/249241/

Suffered horribly, died a year later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/11/the-horrible-thing-that-happened-to-enos-the-chimp-when-he-orbited-earth-50-years-ago/249241/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/11/the-horrible-thing-that-happened-to-enos-the-chimp-when-he-orbited-earth-50-years-ago/249241/</a></p>
<p>Suffered horribly, died a year later.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/20/photos-from-our-past/#comment-26911</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 03:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ham the Chimp&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4201/ch10-3.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here,&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_(chimpanzee)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ham the Chimp</p>
<p><a href="http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4201/ch10-3.htm" rel="nofollow">Here,</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_(chimpanzee)" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/20/photos-from-our-past/#comment-26909</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 02:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It did me. Very negative vibes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It did me. Very negative vibes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/20/photos-from-our-past/#comment-26908</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 02:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That fucking figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That fucking figures.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/09/20/photos-from-our-past/#comment-26907</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 02:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The experiments he was supposed to perform failed on his trip and he was &quot;punished&quot; horribly during the flight.  He suffered during most of the flight in what was described by those who saw it as &quot;horrible&quot;.

The smiling face in the picture is propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The experiments he was supposed to perform failed on his trip and he was &#8220;punished&#8221; horribly during the flight.  He suffered during most of the flight in what was described by those who saw it as &#8220;horrible&#8221;.</p>
<p>The smiling face in the picture is propaganda.</p>
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