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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27947</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just a kid, glued to the set whenever there was a Tarzan movie on, still dreaming of the deep, tropical woodlands.

Your Panama experience was a bit different from mine, where I found a bride, had three sons, and lived in the paradise of an endless summer, with endless beaches.

...And so many cool trees to climb...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just a kid, glued to the set whenever there was a Tarzan movie on, still dreaming of the deep, tropical woodlands.</p>
<p>Your Panama experience was a bit different from mine, where I found a bride, had three sons, and lived in the paradise of an endless summer, with endless beaches.</p>
<p>&#8230;And so many cool trees to climb&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27875</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 01:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching the parrots flying alongside us as we steamed throgh Gatun Lake was a sight I will never forget.

But those weren&#039;t the only birds I ran into in the Big Ditch...Remember the skin show at that firebase in &quot;Apocalpyse Now&quot;?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Loose Hips, 1968

We were only supposed to go through the Canal once, on the way to WestPac, on
the way home we were scheduled to keep going around, with a stop in Australia
and a passage through Suez, followed by a Med cruise and a liberty call in the
UK on the way back. But there was some kind of dust-up in the Middle East, and
when our tour on Yankee Station ended, we were ordered to retrace our route
instead, back to Norfolk the same way we came.

On the Pacific side, we topped up with bunker fuel and our guests came aboard. 
As a special treat, the brass had decided to reward us for our exemplary duty in
the Tonkin Gulf with a little skin. There were about 20 of them, a USO dance
troupe: decked out in tight, lowcut red jumpers, very short blue miniskirts, and
dixie cup whitehats, just like ours, except they accessorized precisely their
spotless white panties and sneakers. At first we were truly grateful, the girls
were not just pretty, they were professional hoofers in their teens and early
twenties, delicious perfumed creatures with flawless bodies, faces, hair and
complexions. Every one of them was simply breathtaking, and none of us had seen
a round-eye in months. We suddenly became very conscious of our own adolescent
awkwardness, our shapeless blue dungarees, our zits, and our ridiculous
haircuts. They would remain with us until we reached the Caribbean side, after
which they would go ashore, no doubt to escort another ship transiting the Big
Ditch.

The Panama Canal is indeed a wonder of the world. It takes a ship a full day to
get through it, but the crew has little time or opportunity to appreciate its
natural and technological wonders. The waterway between the seas is crowded,
narrow, and difficult to navigate. Everyone aboard is busy, Engineering, Deck,
Navigation, all divisions get a workout. There are narrow locks that flood and
empty to raise and lower the ship over the spine of the continent, and a long
channel across the great artificial lake that covers most of the route. At
times the jungle is right alongside the ship, at others, the ship glides through
an inland sea dotted with emerald islands. At any moment a tropical squall can
obliterate visibility. For the mariner it&#039;s a white knuckle ride all the way, a
grounding or a collision is simply unthinkable, with potential international
consequences. Everyone is in a foul mood and on edge, from the skipper to the
lookouts.

During the passage, our guests had the run of the ship. Except for spaces closed
for security reasons, or compartments marked off limits as crew berthing, they
were everywhere, in groups of two or three, always accompanied by one of their
own chaperones or some grizzled petty officer pressed into tour guide duty. 
They had obviously been instructed to be friendly, smiling continuously and
asking us the same questions, &quot;what&#039;s your name, sailor?&quot;, (even though it was
stencilled on our chambray shirts), or &quot;where are you from?&quot;, (as if it mattered
to a group of identical robots), or &quot;what&#039;s that you&#039;re doing?&quot; (could we
explain it to them in less than 20 minutes?). We knew, of course, that if we
had met any one of them on the beach, even in our best dress blues, they
wouldn&#039;t even have acknowledged our existence, much less any attempt to strike
up a conversation.

A destroyer is a maze of narrow passageways, steep ladders and crowded spaces;
it was impossible to get away from them. If you looked aloft you looked up a
skirt; below, you glimpsed down a blouse at a bit of cleavage; at deck level,
either a bobbing butt or a jiggling pair of breasts. If you got a break from your
duties, you barely had time for a quick smoke and a coffee or a trip to the head
and were in no mood to stop and talk to a woman that, no matter how desirable
she might be, was as inaccessible and distant and impossible as cheap
pornography or a starlet&#039;s pinup on a locker door. We smiled at them and winked
at each other, but we hated every minute of it. How could they do this to us? 
How could they have such contempt for us that they would treat us like this? 
This was no substitute for time with our sweethearts, or even the brief but
honest comfort of a waterfront whore. This was worse than nothing. It was
agony.

The lake that comprises the bulk of the Canal is fresh water, and when in
transit, ships take advantage of the limitless supply to clean out their
plumbing and to flush out the salt. The Deck Force holds a &quot;Fresh Water
Washdown&quot; using fire hoses to wash away the accumulated salt of months of sea
spray and fresh water rationing. When one group of USO lovelies and their Chief
Petty Officer bodyguard turned a corner on deck a Bosun&#039;s Mate manning a nozzle
could not resist &quot;accidentally&quot; drenching them with a full blast. It was one
minor victory in a long, humiliating day, a brief interruption of our emotional
rout.

They went ashore at the Caribbean side. It had been a long day and we were glad
to see them go. For a few days after, even after we were underway on the long
trip home, we were quiet and introspective. No one spoke much about the girls,
in fact, we spoke very little at all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the parrots flying alongside us as we steamed throgh Gatun Lake was a sight I will never forget.</p>
<p>But those weren&#8217;t the only birds I ran into in the Big Ditch&#8230;Remember the skin show at that firebase in &#8220;Apocalpyse Now&#8221;?</p>
<blockquote><p>Loose Hips, 1968</p>
<p>We were only supposed to go through the Canal once, on the way to WestPac, on<br />
the way home we were scheduled to keep going around, with a stop in Australia<br />
and a passage through Suez, followed by a Med cruise and a liberty call in the<br />
UK on the way back. But there was some kind of dust-up in the Middle East, and<br />
when our tour on Yankee Station ended, we were ordered to retrace our route<br />
instead, back to Norfolk the same way we came.</p>
<p>On the Pacific side, we topped up with bunker fuel and our guests came aboard.<br />
As a special treat, the brass had decided to reward us for our exemplary duty in<br />
the Tonkin Gulf with a little skin. There were about 20 of them, a USO dance<br />
troupe: decked out in tight, lowcut red jumpers, very short blue miniskirts, and<br />
dixie cup whitehats, just like ours, except they accessorized precisely their<br />
spotless white panties and sneakers. At first we were truly grateful, the girls<br />
were not just pretty, they were professional hoofers in their teens and early<br />
twenties, delicious perfumed creatures with flawless bodies, faces, hair and<br />
complexions. Every one of them was simply breathtaking, and none of us had seen<br />
a round-eye in months. We suddenly became very conscious of our own adolescent<br />
awkwardness, our shapeless blue dungarees, our zits, and our ridiculous<br />
haircuts. They would remain with us until we reached the Caribbean side, after<br />
which they would go ashore, no doubt to escort another ship transiting the Big<br />
Ditch.</p>
<p>The Panama Canal is indeed a wonder of the world. It takes a ship a full day to<br />
get through it, but the crew has little time or opportunity to appreciate its<br />
natural and technological wonders. The waterway between the seas is crowded,<br />
narrow, and difficult to navigate. Everyone aboard is busy, Engineering, Deck,<br />
Navigation, all divisions get a workout. There are narrow locks that flood and<br />
empty to raise and lower the ship over the spine of the continent, and a long<br />
channel across the great artificial lake that covers most of the route. At<br />
times the jungle is right alongside the ship, at others, the ship glides through<br />
an inland sea dotted with emerald islands. At any moment a tropical squall can<br />
obliterate visibility. For the mariner it&#8217;s a white knuckle ride all the way, a<br />
grounding or a collision is simply unthinkable, with potential international<br />
consequences. Everyone is in a foul mood and on edge, from the skipper to the<br />
lookouts.</p>
<p>During the passage, our guests had the run of the ship. Except for spaces closed<br />
for security reasons, or compartments marked off limits as crew berthing, they<br />
were everywhere, in groups of two or three, always accompanied by one of their<br />
own chaperones or some grizzled petty officer pressed into tour guide duty.<br />
They had obviously been instructed to be friendly, smiling continuously and<br />
asking us the same questions, &#8220;what&#8217;s your name, sailor?&#8221;, (even though it was<br />
stencilled on our chambray shirts), or &#8220;where are you from?&#8221;, (as if it mattered<br />
to a group of identical robots), or &#8220;what&#8217;s that you&#8217;re doing?&#8221; (could we<br />
explain it to them in less than 20 minutes?). We knew, of course, that if we<br />
had met any one of them on the beach, even in our best dress blues, they<br />
wouldn&#8217;t even have acknowledged our existence, much less any attempt to strike<br />
up a conversation.</p>
<p>A destroyer is a maze of narrow passageways, steep ladders and crowded spaces;<br />
it was impossible to get away from them. If you looked aloft you looked up a<br />
skirt; below, you glimpsed down a blouse at a bit of cleavage; at deck level,<br />
either a bobbing butt or a jiggling pair of breasts. If you got a break from your<br />
duties, you barely had time for a quick smoke and a coffee or a trip to the head<br />
and were in no mood to stop and talk to a woman that, no matter how desirable<br />
she might be, was as inaccessible and distant and impossible as cheap<br />
pornography or a starlet&#8217;s pinup on a locker door. We smiled at them and winked<br />
at each other, but we hated every minute of it. How could they do this to us?<br />
How could they have such contempt for us that they would treat us like this?<br />
This was no substitute for time with our sweethearts, or even the brief but<br />
honest comfort of a waterfront whore. This was worse than nothing. It was<br />
agony.</p>
<p>The lake that comprises the bulk of the Canal is fresh water, and when in<br />
transit, ships take advantage of the limitless supply to clean out their<br />
plumbing and to flush out the salt. The Deck Force holds a &#8220;Fresh Water<br />
Washdown&#8221; using fire hoses to wash away the accumulated salt of months of sea<br />
spray and fresh water rationing. When one group of USO lovelies and their Chief<br />
Petty Officer bodyguard turned a corner on deck a Bosun&#8217;s Mate manning a nozzle<br />
could not resist &#8220;accidentally&#8221; drenching them with a full blast. It was one<br />
minor victory in a long, humiliating day, a brief interruption of our emotional<br />
rout.</p>
<p>They went ashore at the Caribbean side. It had been a long day and we were glad<br />
to see them go. For a few days after, even after we were underway on the long<br />
trip home, we were quiet and introspective. No one spoke much about the girls,<br />
in fact, we spoke very little at all.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Ainz</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27870</link>
		<dc:creator>Ainz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bear in mind, I live about a block from a city park and golf course. The park has a  7.5 acre lagoon, and the adjacent golf course has about half again that in water features.

I mention this because in the desert southwest, anything bigger than a mud puddle has a population of water fowl. Near sunset there are always ducks, geese, and egrets, sortie-ing from ponds, canals, lagoons, water treatment facilities, and municipal lakes in the metro area. 

Phoenix is more of an artificial environment than most, I suspect. So my experience may run counter to others. 

Use to see an occasional Woodpecker and Cardinal. Have not seen either in quite a while.

In the last five years, the population of Grackles and Pigeons seems to have dropped a great deal. Prior to that, both were present in huge numbers. The Grackle population seemed to bloom about ten or twelve years ago, and as it did, the Mockingbirds seemed to diminish. I think the Mockingbirds are on the rebound, (hope so) but Finches, Mourning Doves, Hummingbirds, and the rest are more or less at a steady state. Just my observations, don&#039;t take it to the bank.

Grackles 
Mockingbirds 
Pigeons
Finches
Mourning Doves
Hummingbirds
Ducks 
Geese
Egrets
Red Tail Hawks
Barn Owls
Ravens
Feral Parakeets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear in mind, I live about a block from a city park and golf course. The park has a  7.5 acre lagoon, and the adjacent golf course has about half again that in water features.</p>
<p>I mention this because in the desert southwest, anything bigger than a mud puddle has a population of water fowl. Near sunset there are always ducks, geese, and egrets, sortie-ing from ponds, canals, lagoons, water treatment facilities, and municipal lakes in the metro area. </p>
<p>Phoenix is more of an artificial environment than most, I suspect. So my experience may run counter to others. </p>
<p>Use to see an occasional Woodpecker and Cardinal. Have not seen either in quite a while.</p>
<p>In the last five years, the population of Grackles and Pigeons seems to have dropped a great deal. Prior to that, both were present in huge numbers. The Grackle population seemed to bloom about ten or twelve years ago, and as it did, the Mockingbirds seemed to diminish. I think the Mockingbirds are on the rebound, (hope so) but Finches, Mourning Doves, Hummingbirds, and the rest are more or less at a steady state. Just my observations, don&#8217;t take it to the bank.</p>
<p>Grackles<br />
Mockingbirds<br />
Pigeons<br />
Finches<br />
Mourning Doves<br />
Hummingbirds<br />
Ducks<br />
Geese<br />
Egrets<br />
Red Tail Hawks<br />
Barn Owls<br />
Ravens<br />
Feral Parakeets</p>
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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27865</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 19:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living in the barracks without A/C, we could get as many as 30 green parakeets (I suppose) hanging on the window-screen and raisin&#039; a ruckus for the hundreds in the neighboring mango tree.  A delight -- unless you just pulled an all-nighter and just want a little shut-eye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in the barracks without A/C, we could get as many as 30 green parakeets (I suppose) hanging on the window-screen and raisin&#8217; a ruckus for the hundreds in the neighboring mango tree.  A delight &#8212; unless you just pulled an all-nighter and just want a little shut-eye.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27860</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parrots are not native to Florida, but groups of escapees prowl around the neighborhood in small bands, permanently established and thriving now. They are always chattering and carrying on.  There are several flocks of a half-dozen or so, segregated by species, noisy, colorful and rambunctious..

I know they are imports, and don&#039;t belong here, but they are such a delight to watch. They are potentially very valuable, I hope the trappers leave them alone, and I hope they prosper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parrots are not native to Florida, but groups of escapees prowl around the neighborhood in small bands, permanently established and thriving now. They are always chattering and carrying on.  There are several flocks of a half-dozen or so, segregated by species, noisy, colorful and rambunctious..</p>
<p>I know they are imports, and don&#8217;t belong here, but they are such a delight to watch. They are potentially very valuable, I hope the trappers leave them alone, and I hope they prosper.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27806</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 23:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And a too-healthy pigeon population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And a too-healthy pigeon population.</p>
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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27776</link>
		<dc:creator>RobVG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I saw one last year about 10 miles from where I live. Sightings are somewhat rare anyway. We use to have a pair of Cow birds that visited us in the spring for four years. Haven&#039;t seen them in two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I saw one last year about 10 miles from where I live. Sightings are somewhat rare anyway. We use to have a pair of Cow birds that visited us in the spring for four years. Haven&#8217;t seen them in two.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27769</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 06:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There don&#039;t seem to be the worms, bugs, gardens and fruit trees around as much as there used to be.

Urban areas are more urban than before, and suburban areas are more urban.  Out in the countryside there are still animals, but I don&#039;t see as many small birds.  And even robins are rare, as rare as bluebirds and cardinals used to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There don&#8217;t seem to be the worms, bugs, gardens and fruit trees around as much as there used to be.</p>
<p>Urban areas are more urban than before, and suburban areas are more urban.  Out in the countryside there are still animals, but I don&#8217;t see as many small birds.  And even robins are rare, as rare as bluebirds and cardinals used to be.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27768</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 06:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard an owl in a long time, either.  I remember hearing their call fairly regularly, when I was younger.  Though I rarely caught sight of one.  The plastic owls still do a good job of warding away the pigeons, though.
  
Mocking birds are rare, now.  There was a time when I hated that breed with a passion because they woke me up at 7AM on weekends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard an owl in a long time, either.  I remember hearing their call fairly regularly, when I was younger.  Though I rarely caught sight of one.  The plastic owls still do a good job of warding away the pigeons, though.</p>
<p>Mocking birds are rare, now.  There was a time when I hated that breed with a passion because they woke me up at 7AM on weekends.</p>
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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/13/the-bird-census/#comment-27731</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you do, don&#039;t get them po&#039;ed at you.  If you respect them, they&#039;ll respect you.

...But just throw one stone, and -- we-e-ell...

Studies show the crow to be amazingly intelligent.  They&#039;ll hang around cawing at you, pecking at anything you happen to leave outside.  Worst of all, they seem to have the ability to pass the &quot;bad-guy&quot; news on to their buddies, and you end up with a complete murder yelling at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you do, don&#8217;t get them po&#8217;ed at you.  If you respect them, they&#8217;ll respect you.</p>
<p>&#8230;But just throw one stone, and &#8212; we-e-ell&#8230;</p>
<p>Studies show the crow to be amazingly intelligent.  They&#8217;ll hang around cawing at you, pecking at anything you happen to leave outside.  Worst of all, they seem to have the ability to pass the &#8220;bad-guy&#8221; news on to their buddies, and you end up with a complete murder yelling at you.</p>
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