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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/19/just-sayin-8/#comment-27953</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh...I am basically in the mindset...trust no one. However, some have a reality *similar* to mine so that is as good as it gets. However, my reality is someone else&#039;s conspiracy theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230;I am basically in the mindset&#8230;trust no one. However, some have a reality *similar* to mine so that is as good as it gets. However, my reality is someone else&#8217;s conspiracy theory.</p>
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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/19/just-sayin-8/#comment-27952</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...you might vote for me by accident.

Again, politics as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;you might vote for me by accident.</p>
<p>Again, politics as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/19/just-sayin-8/#comment-27944</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems a system optimized to steer med students towards sleazy political careers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems a system optimized to steer med students towards sleazy political careers.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/19/just-sayin-8/#comment-27943</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I mentioned in my previous post, pre-med (and presumably medical students in general) are extremely competitive.  It is not only important that they score highly on examinations, but that they wind up at the top of the curve, so that those at the lower ranges are eliminated, even if their exam scores are also very high.  In other words, it isn&#039;t just enough that a student does as well as he can, but that his fellow students do as poorly as possible. 

The driver of this lamentable dynamic is that the number of med school positions is greatly exceeded by the the number of applicants, so all is fair in devising ways of getting your classmates to fail.  As I mentioned in my earlier posts, pre-med students were notorious for their willingness to sabotage other&#039;s careers to advance theirs, even in my experience, where most of the other students in a physics, chemistry or biology class were not pre-med themselves, but had some totally different major.  It was a standing joke in those courses that pre-med students would not just cheat by stealing and copying your lab notes,  but then destroy your notes so that your own probability of failure was greatly increased. Typically, the lab work was 25% of your grade, and it was graded at the end of the course, when you turned the notebook in to your professor for checking.  No notebook, and you&#039;d have to take that lab over again, regardless of your grades on the lecture quizzes and exams.  It brought down your gradepoint average, which I suppose was the whole point.

The really chilling result of this video is not so much that Paul did this to his classmates, but that he would so cavalierly (even proudly) admit it publicly, in front of other medical students, and that their reaction would be so understanding and jovial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned in my previous post, pre-med (and presumably medical students in general) are extremely competitive.  It is not only important that they score highly on examinations, but that they wind up at the top of the curve, so that those at the lower ranges are eliminated, even if their exam scores are also very high.  In other words, it isn&#8217;t just enough that a student does as well as he can, but that his fellow students do as poorly as possible. </p>
<p>The driver of this lamentable dynamic is that the number of med school positions is greatly exceeded by the the number of applicants, so all is fair in devising ways of getting your classmates to fail.  As I mentioned in my earlier posts, pre-med students were notorious for their willingness to sabotage other&#8217;s careers to advance theirs, even in my experience, where most of the other students in a physics, chemistry or biology class were not pre-med themselves, but had some totally different major.  It was a standing joke in those courses that pre-med students would not just cheat by stealing and copying your lab notes,  but then destroy your notes so that your own probability of failure was greatly increased. Typically, the lab work was 25% of your grade, and it was graded at the end of the course, when you turned the notebook in to your professor for checking.  No notebook, and you&#8217;d have to take that lab over again, regardless of your grades on the lecture quizzes and exams.  It brought down your gradepoint average, which I suppose was the whole point.</p>
<p>The really chilling result of this video is not so much that Paul did this to his classmates, but that he would so cavalierly (even proudly) admit it publicly, in front of other medical students, and that their reaction would be so understanding and jovial.</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/19/just-sayin-8/#comment-27935</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 22:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather sleazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather sleazy.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/19/just-sayin-8/#comment-27934</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lecture video from August 22&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWleQaDb0-A&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here.&lt;/a&gt; A helpful liberal in comments has tagged the statement toward the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lecture video from August 22</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWleQaDb0-A" rel="nofollow">Here.</a> A helpful liberal in comments has tagged the statement toward the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/19/just-sayin-8/#comment-27932</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/18/1248682/-Lessons-from-Rand-Paul-Misinformation-can-be-very-important</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/19/just-sayin-8/#comment-27930</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I do remember pre-med students were awfully competitive, which often meant making sure other people failed.

We had a saying in chem class:  &quot;Never loan your lab notebook to a pre-med student, you may never see it again.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I do remember pre-med students were awfully competitive, which often meant making sure other people failed.</p>
<p>We had a saying in chem class:  &#8220;Never loan your lab notebook to a pre-med student, you may never see it again.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: alcaray</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2013/10/19/just-sayin-8/#comment-27928</link>
		<dc:creator>alcaray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any sourcing for the quotes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any sourcing for the quotes?</p>
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