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		<title>By: RobVG</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/02/08/e-thrust-airliner/#comment-29705</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it suffered the same kind of failure as flight 232. Lockheed had the foresight to use quad redundancy.

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On September 22, 1981, an Eastern Airlines Flight 935 departed Newark, New Jersey and suffered an uncontained failure of its number two (tail) engine at 14,500 feet (4,400 m), while en route to San Juan, Puerto Rico.[64][65] The fragments from that engine damaged three of its four hydraulic systems resulting in fluid loss in them. The rudder pedals also jammed. The fragments impacted but did not puncture the lines for the other hydraulic system; the captain was able to safely land the aircraft at John F. Kennedy International Airport, with some limited use of the outboard spoilers, the inboard ailerons and the horizontal stabilizer, plus differential engine power of the remaining two engines. There were no injuries. The L-1011 having four hydraulic systems (instead of three like the DC-10) allowed for a safe landing&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it suffered the same kind of failure as flight 232. Lockheed had the foresight to use quad redundancy.</p>
<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
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On September 22, 1981, an Eastern Airlines Flight 935 departed Newark, New Jersey and suffered an uncontained failure of its number two (tail) engine at 14,500 feet (4,400 m), while en route to San Juan, Puerto Rico.[64][65] The fragments from that engine damaged three of its four hydraulic systems resulting in fluid loss in them. The rudder pedals also jammed. The fragments impacted but did not puncture the lines for the other hydraulic system; the captain was able to safely land the aircraft at John F. Kennedy International Airport, with some limited use of the outboard spoilers, the inboard ailerons and the horizontal stabilizer, plus differential engine power of the remaining two engines. There were no injuries. The L-1011 having four hydraulic systems (instead of three like the DC-10) allowed for a safe landing&#8221;
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/02/08/e-thrust-airliner/#comment-29702</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 07:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 80s I was flying every week and DC-10 was fairly often the equipment with the 707 being phased out. For a few months back then I was going through an irrational, white knuckle, period. As you observed, the DC-10 looked like an accident waiting to happen. To me that engine appeared to be as big as the rest of the plane and was was bound to fall off by it&#039;s sheer mass.

I was always happy to get an L-1011 because to me they just looked safer, in spite of being essentially the same principle. 

As it turns out, the L-1011 was overall the better airplane with the engine more molded in than the DC-10.

I read somewhere, Lockheed should design them, Boeing should build them, and Douglas should market them.

The E-Thrust looks cool and safe but the long term safety record will tell the tale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 80s I was flying every week and DC-10 was fairly often the equipment with the 707 being phased out. For a few months back then I was going through an irrational, white knuckle, period. As you observed, the DC-10 looked like an accident waiting to happen. To me that engine appeared to be as big as the rest of the plane and was was bound to fall off by it&#8217;s sheer mass.</p>
<p>I was always happy to get an L-1011 because to me they just looked safer, in spite of being essentially the same principle. </p>
<p>As it turns out, the L-1011 was overall the better airplane with the engine more molded in than the DC-10.</p>
<p>I read somewhere, Lockheed should design them, Boeing should build them, and Douglas should market them.</p>
<p>The E-Thrust looks cool and safe but the long term safety record will tell the tale.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/02/08/e-thrust-airliner/#comment-29698</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trend seems to create lifting bodies, eliminating or minimizing the wings.  Seems to be more efficient.

Safety seems to be secondary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trend seems to create lifting bodies, eliminating or minimizing the wings.  Seems to be more efficient.</p>
<p>Safety seems to be secondary.</p>
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