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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2014 04:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it works.  Looking at the test firings and rockets, the apex of the nozzles is near the center of the rocket.  That means that whatever force exerted by the nozzle is minimal and must be transmitted to the top of the rocket for an effect.

And the information needed to calculate the amount of the force has to come from minute changes detectable at the top, transmitted to the computer, calculated, sent to the nozzles and have those move all very, very rapidly.

I, frankly, am in total awe, watching them go up, lean, rotate, stop rotation, lean some more, keep going up all from forces at the bottom and almost on one point.  Because some of those are long rockets, and some of them have shrouds with a bigger diameter than the base.

And that, in case anyone wondered, is why I&#039;m not a rocket scientist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it works.  Looking at the test firings and rockets, the apex of the nozzles is near the center of the rocket.  That means that whatever force exerted by the nozzle is minimal and must be transmitted to the top of the rocket for an effect.</p>
<p>And the information needed to calculate the amount of the force has to come from minute changes detectable at the top, transmitted to the computer, calculated, sent to the nozzles and have those move all very, very rapidly.</p>
<p>I, frankly, am in total awe, watching them go up, lean, rotate, stop rotation, lean some more, keep going up all from forces at the bottom and almost on one point.  Because some of those are long rockets, and some of them have shrouds with a bigger diameter than the base.</p>
<p>And that, in case anyone wondered, is why I&#8217;m not a rocket scientist.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 05:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Most modern liquid rocket engines are &quot;gimbaled.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

That is, they are mounted on a pivot that allows them to be swiveled a few degrees in several directions. A rocket with a single engine gimbals in all directions, while sometimes multiple engine rockets have outer engines that only gimbal in limited directions.

The gimballing is done by hydraulics or powerful electric actuators that can change the direction of thrust very quickly. The rest is just high-speed calculations in the guidance system which tracks the attitude and other factors of the rocket during the launch. Flexible bellows in things like fuel supply lines accommodate the movements.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaqmfliRLPM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is a video of an SSME (Shuttle engine) in a test stand, exercising its gimballing.&lt;/a&gt; It&#039;s a Liquid Oxygen/Hydrogen engine, with a near-invisible exhaust at the outlet. The Saturn, which burned LOX/RP-1 (sort of kerosene) had a brilliant yellow-white exhaust at the outlet &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0-DEtKcsjg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(SSME vs. F-1 Test Videos)&lt;/a&gt;

It&#039;s possible to adjust attitude with varying thrust from multiple engines, but a lot harder.

Other techniques that have been used include graphite vanes in the exhaust (V-2) or injecting a liquid into the side of the exhaust stream to deflect it, often used in solid propellant rockets that don&#039;t gimbal easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most modern liquid rocket engines are &#8220;gimbaled.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is, they are mounted on a pivot that allows them to be swiveled a few degrees in several directions. A rocket with a single engine gimbals in all directions, while sometimes multiple engine rockets have outer engines that only gimbal in limited directions.</p>
<p>The gimballing is done by hydraulics or powerful electric actuators that can change the direction of thrust very quickly. The rest is just high-speed calculations in the guidance system which tracks the attitude and other factors of the rocket during the launch. Flexible bellows in things like fuel supply lines accommodate the movements.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaqmfliRLPM" rel="nofollow">This is a video of an SSME (Shuttle engine) in a test stand, exercising its gimballing.</a> It&#8217;s a Liquid Oxygen/Hydrogen engine, with a near-invisible exhaust at the outlet. The Saturn, which burned LOX/RP-1 (sort of kerosene) had a brilliant yellow-white exhaust at the outlet <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0-DEtKcsjg" rel="nofollow">(SSME vs. F-1 Test Videos)</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible to adjust attitude with varying thrust from multiple engines, but a lot harder.</p>
<p>Other techniques that have been used include graphite vanes in the exhaust (V-2) or injecting a liquid into the side of the exhaust stream to deflect it, often used in solid propellant rockets that don&#8217;t gimbal easily.</p>
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