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		<title>By: johannes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2014 04:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that the concepts of mass, energy, space, and force were clearly understood and the mathematics explained the functions that I had in mind.

But then Einstein was not able to explain the theory of everything either.
I&#039;ll try to refine the concepts further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that the concepts of mass, energy, space, and force were clearly understood and the mathematics explained the functions that I had in mind.</p>
<p>But then Einstein was not able to explain the theory of everything either.<br />
I&#8217;ll try to refine the concepts further.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2014 03:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J.--If you want to talk science, or discuss speculative ideas about science (that&#039;s allowed, even welcome, on the Zone);  you&#039;re going to have to adhere to some simple rules of scientific discourse.

All terms must be rigorously defined, in terms of others that have also been rigorously defined.  In normal conversation, we throw about terms like mass, weight, density, force, power, energy, momenutm, impulse and so on, but these mean little in everyday speech.  In elementary physics, these terms have very specific definitions.  Without these definitions, we do not know what we are talking about, and we cannot construct mathematical formulations to check our thinking.

In the humanities, particularly in politics, history, economics, sociology, psychology, we are pretty much forced to use intuitive and anecdotal nomenclature, often improvised on the spot. For example, we may speak of the &quot;force of public opinion&quot;, or &quot;artistic energy&quot;,  or &quot;intellectual power&quot; and we all have a vague idea of what we&#039;re talking about.  In physics we have to be much more precise and formal so we can use our math.  This gives science its great power, but also establishes its severe limitations.  This is why scientific logic is often so clumsy and incomplete (if not downright misleading) when applied to the humanities and behavioral/social sciences.

In Newtonian physics, all terminology derives from axiomatic concepts which we all accept, but which we must remember, are just axioms; they are instinctive and psychological.  In other words, we made them up. These concepts are mass, space, time and electric charge (which we will not talk about here).  The units of these four items are the kilogram, meter, second and Coulomb (kg,m,s,C), but we will talk only about the first three. All the physical concepts involved in Newtonian mechanics are derived mathematically from these fundamental axiomatic definitions. There are some mathematical embellishments I&#039;m glossing over here, but this is the meat of the matter.

Velocity = space/time  (m/s)
Acceleration = velocity/time
Momentum = mass x velocity 
Force = mass x acceleration  The unit of force is the Newton = kg x m/s/s
Energy = Force x space. The unit of energy is the Joule = Newton x m = (kg x m/s/s) x m = kg x (m/s)**2
Power = Energy/time.  The unit of power is the Watt.

Another way of defining Energy is 1/2 x mass x velocity**2 or 1/2 kg x (m/s)**2 You will note this gives the result in the same units (Joules) as our other definition, mass x velocity squared. The &quot;1/2&quot; comes from the calculus we have to use to describe moving bodies. 

The reason we go through all this trouble in defining things so carefully is that force, momentum and energy have been shown by experiment to have wonderful properties:  They are conserved in all physical systems: the Conservation Laws.  This is even the case where we are talking about things like chemical or electrical or heat energy.  The amount of momentum and energy in any closed physical system remains constant, it never changes.  This allows us a check in all our speculations and calculations. In Newtonian Mechanics (In the Einstein world it gets a bit more complicated) keeping track of the energy and momentum allows to determine whether certain reactions are even possible.

Experiment and experience has shown us that Forces always occur in opposing pairs (for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction).  For example, the force of the hot gasses expelled out a rocket motor is equal and opposite to the force acting on the rocket which moves it forward. The two forces cancel out.  That force acting on the rocket over a certain distance adds to its energy, which is exactly half of the energy that was chemically locked up in the fuel.  The other half goes into heating up the rocket exhaust.  All of these complex relations interact in very simple and wonderful ways in all physical systems throughout nature. And if you take the trouble to properly define your terms calculating all these interactions and their effects is very simple because you have rules which tell you exactly how to play the game.

These facts also hold true in the relativistic universe, although there are some interesting wrinkles I didn&#039;t want to bring up here. For example, Einstein showed us mass and energy are intimately related, they are two aspects of the same thing (That&#039;s what E = Mc**2 actually means in English.) Hre also showed us space and time are different aspects of the same thing thing, they are not separate.  He also demonstrated that space and time can change, and only the speed of light is always the same.  The simple definitions of Classical Mechanics I listed above gave us no clue about this. You see, our rules are not a property of reality, we make them up. They have a psychological origin.  They come from our brain, not from nature. And sometimes different rules can give you the same results, or even better results.

This doesn&#039;t mean you can just think something up and it will work.  You always have to go back to nature and see if it works better, or if it works at all.  We have three kinds of rules that work, Classical Mechanics,  Relativity, and Quantum Physics. But none of them works in all cases.  I think we&#039;re just getting started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.&#8211;If you want to talk science, or discuss speculative ideas about science (that&#8217;s allowed, even welcome, on the Zone);  you&#8217;re going to have to adhere to some simple rules of scientific discourse.</p>
<p>All terms must be rigorously defined, in terms of others that have also been rigorously defined.  In normal conversation, we throw about terms like mass, weight, density, force, power, energy, momenutm, impulse and so on, but these mean little in everyday speech.  In elementary physics, these terms have very specific definitions.  Without these definitions, we do not know what we are talking about, and we cannot construct mathematical formulations to check our thinking.</p>
<p>In the humanities, particularly in politics, history, economics, sociology, psychology, we are pretty much forced to use intuitive and anecdotal nomenclature, often improvised on the spot. For example, we may speak of the &#8220;force of public opinion&#8221;, or &#8220;artistic energy&#8221;,  or &#8220;intellectual power&#8221; and we all have a vague idea of what we&#8217;re talking about.  In physics we have to be much more precise and formal so we can use our math.  This gives science its great power, but also establishes its severe limitations.  This is why scientific logic is often so clumsy and incomplete (if not downright misleading) when applied to the humanities and behavioral/social sciences.</p>
<p>In Newtonian physics, all terminology derives from axiomatic concepts which we all accept, but which we must remember, are just axioms; they are instinctive and psychological.  In other words, we made them up. These concepts are mass, space, time and electric charge (which we will not talk about here).  The units of these four items are the kilogram, meter, second and Coulomb (kg,m,s,C), but we will talk only about the first three. All the physical concepts involved in Newtonian mechanics are derived mathematically from these fundamental axiomatic definitions. There are some mathematical embellishments I&#8217;m glossing over here, but this is the meat of the matter.</p>
<p>Velocity = space/time  (m/s)<br />
Acceleration = velocity/time<br />
Momentum = mass x velocity<br />
Force = mass x acceleration  The unit of force is the Newton = kg x m/s/s<br />
Energy = Force x space. The unit of energy is the Joule = Newton x m = (kg x m/s/s) x m = kg x (m/s)**2<br />
Power = Energy/time.  The unit of power is the Watt.</p>
<p>Another way of defining Energy is 1/2 x mass x velocity**2 or 1/2 kg x (m/s)**2 You will note this gives the result in the same units (Joules) as our other definition, mass x velocity squared. The &#8220;1/2&#8243; comes from the calculus we have to use to describe moving bodies. </p>
<p>The reason we go through all this trouble in defining things so carefully is that force, momentum and energy have been shown by experiment to have wonderful properties:  They are conserved in all physical systems: the Conservation Laws.  This is even the case where we are talking about things like chemical or electrical or heat energy.  The amount of momentum and energy in any closed physical system remains constant, it never changes.  This allows us a check in all our speculations and calculations. In Newtonian Mechanics (In the Einstein world it gets a bit more complicated) keeping track of the energy and momentum allows to determine whether certain reactions are even possible.</p>
<p>Experiment and experience has shown us that Forces always occur in opposing pairs (for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction).  For example, the force of the hot gasses expelled out a rocket motor is equal and opposite to the force acting on the rocket which moves it forward. The two forces cancel out.  That force acting on the rocket over a certain distance adds to its energy, which is exactly half of the energy that was chemically locked up in the fuel.  The other half goes into heating up the rocket exhaust.  All of these complex relations interact in very simple and wonderful ways in all physical systems throughout nature. And if you take the trouble to properly define your terms calculating all these interactions and their effects is very simple because you have rules which tell you exactly how to play the game.</p>
<p>These facts also hold true in the relativistic universe, although there are some interesting wrinkles I didn&#8217;t want to bring up here. For example, Einstein showed us mass and energy are intimately related, they are two aspects of the same thing (That&#8217;s what E = Mc**2 actually means in English.) Hre also showed us space and time are different aspects of the same thing thing, they are not separate.  He also demonstrated that space and time can change, and only the speed of light is always the same.  The simple definitions of Classical Mechanics I listed above gave us no clue about this. You see, our rules are not a property of reality, we make them up. They have a psychological origin.  They come from our brain, not from nature. And sometimes different rules can give you the same results, or even better results.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean you can just think something up and it will work.  You always have to go back to nature and see if it works better, or if it works at all.  We have three kinds of rules that work, Classical Mechanics,  Relativity, and Quantum Physics. But none of them works in all cases.  I think we&#8217;re just getting started.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is U?

What is k?  What is this mystery book you refer to?  Why should I care? At least give us a title or author so we can look it up, because we can&#039;t make any sense out of your descriptions. You&#039;re pulling stuff out of thin air.

These are all simple problems with simple solutions, Einstein mass-energy equivalence has been around for almost a century.  We know it works. What are you chasing here?  What are you trying to tell us?  Why are you complicating such a trivial problem? 



&lt;blockquote&gt; This way of looking at the structure of mass indicates that the “mass” as we know it, is composed of three fundamental ingredients, one is space, which contains potential force and is the volume that movement can happen in, the second is the kinetic force which manifests itself as the density that is able to move in the space, and the third is the kinetic energy that causes the motion of the density within the space.
In other words, the symbol “u/k” in the formula indicates the structure of mass with its intrinsic space, density and motion. When such a combination is accelerated to the maximum speed then it will contain the maximum energy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Johannes.  That is just a bunch of fancy, scientific-sounding words that don&#039;t mean anything.  It sounds like Scotty trying to explain how dilithium crystals work.  Its gibberish.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is U?</p>
<p>What is k?  What is this mystery book you refer to?  Why should I care? At least give us a title or author so we can look it up, because we can&#8217;t make any sense out of your descriptions. You&#8217;re pulling stuff out of thin air.</p>
<p>These are all simple problems with simple solutions, Einstein mass-energy equivalence has been around for almost a century.  We know it works. What are you chasing here?  What are you trying to tell us?  Why are you complicating such a trivial problem? </p>
<blockquote><p> This way of looking at the structure of mass indicates that the “mass” as we know it, is composed of three fundamental ingredients, one is space, which contains potential force and is the volume that movement can happen in, the second is the kinetic force which manifests itself as the density that is able to move in the space, and the third is the kinetic energy that causes the motion of the density within the space.<br />
In other words, the symbol “u/k” in the formula indicates the structure of mass with its intrinsic space, density and motion. When such a combination is accelerated to the maximum speed then it will contain the maximum energy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Johannes.  That is just a bunch of fancy, scientific-sounding words that don&#8217;t mean anything.  It sounds like Scotty trying to explain how dilithium crystals work.  Its gibberish.</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
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		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 20:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E = (u/k) c.  Where c= a constant that is represented by the speed of light in meters per second within a vacuum of space.   And m= mass measured in kilograms. And “u” represents the potential force that is intrinsic to the quantity of mass; that potential force is calculated by multiplying the mass quantity by itself and then by multiplying the result by c, in other words m^2 times “c”.  E= energy in Joules.
We know that C is approximately 300,000,000 meters per second.
If we take a 5 kilogram mass as an example and use it in the formula we will get the following result.
If  m = 5, then u will = 25 * c, and that = 7,500,000,000
Now we have all the figures that we need to make the calculation:  U= 7,500,000,000 and m=5 so we first take the 7,500,000,000 and divide it by 5 to get 1,500,000,000, which represents the kinetic energy that is intrinsic to that quantity of mass, then we multiply that figure by the “c”;  in our example we are using 300,000,000 m/s as a close enough number for c, and that means that 1,500,000,000 * 300,000,000 = 4.5*10^17 Joules.
This way of looking at the structure of mass indicates that the “mass” as we know it, is composed of three fundamental ingredients, one is space, which contains potential force and is the volume that movement can happen in, the second is the kinetic force which manifests itself as the density that is able to move in the space, and the third is the kinetic energy that causes the motion of the density within the space.  
In other words, the symbol “u/k” in the formula indicates the structure of mass with its intrinsic space, density and motion.  When such a combination is accelerated to the maximum speed then it will contain the maximum energy. 

The book that this information was deciphered from, was translated from another language in 1861.  The copy that I have was printed in 1927.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E = (u/k) c.  Where c= a constant that is represented by the speed of light in meters per second within a vacuum of space.   And m= mass measured in kilograms. And “u” represents the potential force that is intrinsic to the quantity of mass; that potential force is calculated by multiplying the mass quantity by itself and then by multiplying the result by c, in other words m^2 times “c”.  E= energy in Joules.<br />
We know that C is approximately 300,000,000 meters per second.<br />
If we take a 5 kilogram mass as an example and use it in the formula we will get the following result.<br />
If  m = 5, then u will = 25 * c, and that = 7,500,000,000<br />
Now we have all the figures that we need to make the calculation:  U= 7,500,000,000 and m=5 so we first take the 7,500,000,000 and divide it by 5 to get 1,500,000,000, which represents the kinetic energy that is intrinsic to that quantity of mass, then we multiply that figure by the “c”;  in our example we are using 300,000,000 m/s as a close enough number for c, and that means that 1,500,000,000 * 300,000,000 = 4.5*10^17 Joules.<br />
This way of looking at the structure of mass indicates that the “mass” as we know it, is composed of three fundamental ingredients, one is space, which contains potential force and is the volume that movement can happen in, the second is the kinetic force which manifests itself as the density that is able to move in the space, and the third is the kinetic energy that causes the motion of the density within the space.<br />
In other words, the symbol “u/k” in the formula indicates the structure of mass with its intrinsic space, density and motion.  When such a combination is accelerated to the maximum speed then it will contain the maximum energy. </p>
<p>The book that this information was deciphered from, was translated from another language in 1861.  The copy that I have was printed in 1927.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 02:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, lets try that.

E = [(cm^2) / m ] c  Use parentheses to isolate terms
  = cm x c           Divide first term by m
  = c^2 m            Multiply first term by second
  = mc^2             Rearranging terms 

So you start out with a bogus equation,  E = cm^2, and you arbitrarily divide by m and multiply by c to make it come out right: E = mc^2.

&lt;em&gt;Now&lt;/em&gt; I get it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, lets try that.</p>
<p>E = [(cm^2) / m ] c  Use parentheses to isolate terms<br />
  = cm x c           Divide first term by m<br />
  = c^2 m            Multiply first term by second<br />
  = mc^2             Rearranging terms </p>
<p>So you start out with a bogus equation,  E = cm^2, and you arbitrarily divide by m and multiply by c to make it come out right: E = mc^2.</p>
<p><em>Now</em> I get it.</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
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		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 00:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, I&#039;m using another writing appliccation now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, I&#8217;m using another writing appliccation now.</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
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		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 00:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C= the speed of light.   M= mass in kg.
First take the speed of light in meters per second and then take a mass value; lets say 5 kg. And multiply the 5 by 5 to represent the square value of the 5 kg mass, now multiply the square value of the mass with the speed of light and you will get value of the (potential) force in Joules that exists within the said quantity of mass, then you need to divide that quantity by the original mass quantity; 5 in this case, that will give you the amount of kinetic energy in joules that exists within the said quantity of mass, by multiplying the result by the speed of light you will get the total amount of energy in Joules that the said mass quantity can have.
In other words:  E = cm^2 divided by m and multiplied by c.  So, to illustrate and use “c” as 300000000 m/s and the 5 kg as the mass, then m^2 = 25 multiplied by 300000000 = 7,500,000,000,  Then take the 7.5*10^9 and divide it by 5 = 1,500,000,000 then multiply that result by 300000000 which gives you the final result of 4.7*10^17 Joules.  As a comparison;  C * C = 9*10^16 * 5 = 4.5*10 17 Joules. 
Previously I have used the formula E= (U/k)c, with  the same results, that formula was deciphered from a real old book, a book that many people consider useless and not worth saving. 
Thanks for the link, it has another way of looking at the problem.  Mass being accelerated to (almost) the speed of light by using external force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C= the speed of light.   M= mass in kg.<br />
First take the speed of light in meters per second and then take a mass value; lets say 5 kg. And multiply the 5 by 5 to represent the square value of the 5 kg mass, now multiply the square value of the mass with the speed of light and you will get value of the (potential) force in Joules that exists within the said quantity of mass, then you need to divide that quantity by the original mass quantity; 5 in this case, that will give you the amount of kinetic energy in joules that exists within the said quantity of mass, by multiplying the result by the speed of light you will get the total amount of energy in Joules that the said mass quantity can have.<br />
In other words:  E = cm^2 divided by m and multiplied by c.  So, to illustrate and use “c” as 300000000 m/s and the 5 kg as the mass, then m^2 = 25 multiplied by 300000000 = 7,500,000,000,  Then take the 7.5*10^9 and divide it by 5 = 1,500,000,000 then multiply that result by 300000000 which gives you the final result of 4.7*10^17 Joules.  As a comparison;  C * C = 9*10^16 * 5 = 4.5*10 17 Joules.<br />
Previously I have used the formula E= (U/k)c, with  the same results, that formula was deciphered from a real old book, a book that many people consider useless and not worth saving.<br />
Thanks for the link, it has another way of looking at the problem.  Mass being accelerated to (almost) the speed of light by using external force.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2014 20:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not a criticism, just a question.

I suspect it has to do with cut and paste from some writing application. If so there is probably
a way to avoid it without editing. I don&#039;t know how but TB uses C&amp;P sometimes I think and could 
tell you how to fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a criticism, just a question.</p>
<p>I suspect it has to do with cut and paste from some writing application. If so there is probably<br />
a way to avoid it without editing. I don&#8217;t know how but TB uses C&amp;P sometimes I think and could<br />
tell you how to fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2014 02:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/E=mcsquared/proof.html</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2014 02:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the term to the right of the equal sign, the c&#039;s cancel out.  And m squared divided by m is just m.
So E= c*m^2/m*c simplifies to E = m.  That makes no sense.

E is in Joules, a unit of energy, and a Joule is defined as a kilogram meter squared per second squared.

Do the dimensional analysis, substituting the units for the quantities: 

E = Mc^2        where capital M is Mass, lc m is meters.
E = M (v)^2     c is just another velocity, v = meters per second
E = M (m/s)^2
E = kg (m/s)(m/s)
E = kg m^2/s^2
Joules = kg meters squared per second squared

Einstein had to multiply mass by a squared velocity or the answer wouldn&#039;t come out in energy units.  In your alternative formula, the answer comes out in gibberish.

Now an equation coming out in the right units doesn&#039;t necessarily mean its correct.  But if it doesn&#039;t come out in the right units, it is necessarily wrong.  For example, the classical vis-viva energy equation E = 1/2 mv^2 yields the correct values and the correct units, in the non-relativistic case.  

Einstein didn&#039;t just come up with an equation that gave the right units and decided it was right.  He derived that equation from other equations that had already been demonstrated to be correct.  I used to know that proof when I was a student, but I can&#039;t remember it now.  Too bad, it was quite simple, and quite elegant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the term to the right of the equal sign, the c&#8217;s cancel out.  And m squared divided by m is just m.<br />
So E= c*m^2/m*c simplifies to E = m.  That makes no sense.</p>
<p>E is in Joules, a unit of energy, and a Joule is defined as a kilogram meter squared per second squared.</p>
<p>Do the dimensional analysis, substituting the units for the quantities: </p>
<p>E = Mc^2        where capital M is Mass, lc m is meters.<br />
E = M (v)^2     c is just another velocity, v = meters per second<br />
E = M (m/s)^2<br />
E = kg (m/s)(m/s)<br />
E = kg m^2/s^2<br />
Joules = kg meters squared per second squared</p>
<p>Einstein had to multiply mass by a squared velocity or the answer wouldn&#8217;t come out in energy units.  In your alternative formula, the answer comes out in gibberish.</p>
<p>Now an equation coming out in the right units doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean its correct.  But if it doesn&#8217;t come out in the right units, it is necessarily wrong.  For example, the classical vis-viva energy equation E = 1/2 mv^2 yields the correct values and the correct units, in the non-relativistic case.  </p>
<p>Einstein didn&#8217;t just come up with an equation that gave the right units and decided it was right.  He derived that equation from other equations that had already been demonstrated to be correct.  I used to know that proof when I was a student, but I can&#8217;t remember it now.  Too bad, it was quite simple, and quite elegant.</p>
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