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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/04/06/clarkes-third-law/#comment-30467</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2014 01:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/04/06/clarkes-third-law/#comment-30461</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 21:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re selling soccer team jerseys.</description>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/04/06/clarkes-third-law/#comment-30460</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 20:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I figured that was just one of your Hispanic minions</description>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/04/06/clarkes-third-law/#comment-30459</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I thought we had finally licked that problem.</description>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/04/06/clarkes-third-law/#comment-30375</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 16:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I&#039;m saying is that our curiousity and ability to amass technological knowledge and toys has exceeded our ability to use them wisely.

Similar to heroin.  Useful substance, can be processed into all manner of pain relievers, makes many surgical processes possible.  Wonderful benefits.

And mankind can become addicted, use the drug unwisely and in a manner which leads to the demise of people.

Or guns.  The FBI reports that 25 innocent people are killed by personal weapons for every one badguy.  There&#039;s no doubt that they kill badguys, but at what cost?

I&#039;m simply suggesting that mankind probably knows more than we can handle wisely, and it&#039;s leading to our being a very short-lived species.

Technology is cumulative, wisdom needs to be learned by each individual and is rarely done.  An adolescent attitude tends to run things, preferring to use force rather than negotiate.

We&#039;ve come close before.  Imagine if Bush-Cheney had been in power during the Cuban missile crisis.  Nuclear war.  That would be the fast way.  

And global warming is the slow way.  Mankind is smart, curious and unwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that our curiousity and ability to amass technological knowledge and toys has exceeded our ability to use them wisely.</p>
<p>Similar to heroin.  Useful substance, can be processed into all manner of pain relievers, makes many surgical processes possible.  Wonderful benefits.</p>
<p>And mankind can become addicted, use the drug unwisely and in a manner which leads to the demise of people.</p>
<p>Or guns.  The FBI reports that 25 innocent people are killed by personal weapons for every one badguy.  There&#8217;s no doubt that they kill badguys, but at what cost?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m simply suggesting that mankind probably knows more than we can handle wisely, and it&#8217;s leading to our being a very short-lived species.</p>
<p>Technology is cumulative, wisdom needs to be learned by each individual and is rarely done.  An adolescent attitude tends to run things, preferring to use force rather than negotiate.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve come close before.  Imagine if Bush-Cheney had been in power during the Cuban missile crisis.  Nuclear war.  That would be the fast way.  </p>
<p>And global warming is the slow way.  Mankind is smart, curious and unwise.</p>
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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/04/06/clarkes-third-law/#comment-30374</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good point, Frank, but one of bowser&#039;s unknowables, I suppose.  If they knew as much about nukes as we know today, and the utter failing such an exchange would bring about, the weapons might be used in a limited sense.  Such rulers would have to advance studies regarding environmental effects and the back-blast of contamination in survival resources.  Disease was everywhere, but the planet was a lot cleaner back then, and the realms of Napoleon and Genghis Khan would be far more complicated than now.  In fact, the overall advance required for these two to have developed any form of nuclear energy might preclude the actual existence of disease today.

Different worlds.  The thought is that if Julius Caesar had not forced his way into Egypt and had not ignited the papyrus tomes in the Library of Alexandria, we might today be headed for the stars.

Undreamed of dreams, unknowingly lost...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good point, Frank, but one of bowser&#8217;s unknowables, I suppose.  If they knew as much about nukes as we know today, and the utter failing such an exchange would bring about, the weapons might be used in a limited sense.  Such rulers would have to advance studies regarding environmental effects and the back-blast of contamination in survival resources.  Disease was everywhere, but the planet was a lot cleaner back then, and the realms of Napoleon and Genghis Khan would be far more complicated than now.  In fact, the overall advance required for these two to have developed any form of nuclear energy might preclude the actual existence of disease today.</p>
<p>Different worlds.  The thought is that if Julius Caesar had not forced his way into Egypt and had not ignited the papyrus tomes in the Library of Alexandria, we might today be headed for the stars.</p>
<p>Undreamed of dreams, unknowingly lost&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt that my final thoughts before I shuffle off this mortal coil will be of the morality or technical prowess of mankind but if they were, I think I would be optimistic.

There will always be those who know less and don&#039;t care that they know less, but they are fewer now than a hundred years ago and they know more now than they did then.

Mankind is certainly a work in progress but I tend to think that our moral progress has been measurable if not equal to our technical advancement.

For all the pessimism and self hatred we see, it is worth noticing that we have kept the nuclear genie in the bottle for nearly 70 years. Would the worlds of Napoleon or Genghis Khan been able to say the same. I doubt the fear of mutual destruction would have fazed either of them. Wars of conquest are things of the past. Slavery is illegal everywhere and while racial prejudice exists, at least the principle of equality is generally accepted as a matter of policy. All this and much more in a hundred years.

Maybe global warming will end us. I doubt it but neither Bowser or I will live to see how it turns out. We can both die with the certainty that we were right.

As long as we continue to overpopulate, life on Earth will become more and more volatile regardless of our moral progress. All the more reason that, as a species, we need to learn all that we can about everything. 

Mankind does not deserve extinction for our misdeeds but our civilization will crumble if we don&#039;t get off of this rock and sooner or later some ELE outside our control will take us out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that my final thoughts before I shuffle off this mortal coil will be of the morality or technical prowess of mankind but if they were, I think I would be optimistic.</p>
<p>There will always be those who know less and don&#8217;t care that they know less, but they are fewer now than a hundred years ago and they know more now than they did then.</p>
<p>Mankind is certainly a work in progress but I tend to think that our moral progress has been measurable if not equal to our technical advancement.</p>
<p>For all the pessimism and self hatred we see, it is worth noticing that we have kept the nuclear genie in the bottle for nearly 70 years. Would the worlds of Napoleon or Genghis Khan been able to say the same. I doubt the fear of mutual destruction would have fazed either of them. Wars of conquest are things of the past. Slavery is illegal everywhere and while racial prejudice exists, at least the principle of equality is generally accepted as a matter of policy. All this and much more in a hundred years.</p>
<p>Maybe global warming will end us. I doubt it but neither Bowser or I will live to see how it turns out. We can both die with the certainty that we were right.</p>
<p>As long as we continue to overpopulate, life on Earth will become more and more volatile regardless of our moral progress. All the more reason that, as a species, we need to learn all that we can about everything. </p>
<p>Mankind does not deserve extinction for our misdeeds but our civilization will crumble if we don&#8217;t get off of this rock and sooner or later some ELE outside our control will take us out.</p>
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		<title>By: DanS</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/04/06/clarkes-third-law/#comment-30372</link>
		<dc:creator>DanS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 12:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Raymond Massey asking when the world can finally rest from its research, from its collection of knowledge, from its strive for advancement.

The answer, my friend, is never.  The question will remain, and the digging will continue, now and always, until the searched for is finally found.  We will never reach the limit you profess, though there will be things we will not have the time to answer, for all things apparently do come to an end, and generally when the end would be the least convenient.

Your post asks more questions -- of this group and of the world -- so you continue your personal search for your personal answers, many of which can only be answered by you.  Individually, people throw in the towel all the time and take that rest.  Collectively, we all continue our strive for solution and resolution, all hoping to one day take that dreamed of rest, which never comes.

Well, time to get up and dust myself off again.

Cheers, all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Raymond Massey asking when the world can finally rest from its research, from its collection of knowledge, from its strive for advancement.</p>
<p>The answer, my friend, is never.  The question will remain, and the digging will continue, now and always, until the searched for is finally found.  We will never reach the limit you profess, though there will be things we will not have the time to answer, for all things apparently do come to an end, and generally when the end would be the least convenient.</p>
<p>Your post asks more questions &#8212; of this group and of the world &#8212; so you continue your personal search for your personal answers, many of which can only be answered by you.  Individually, people throw in the towel all the time and take that rest.  Collectively, we all continue our strive for solution and resolution, all hoping to one day take that dreamed of rest, which never comes.</p>
<p>Well, time to get up and dust myself off again.</p>
<p>Cheers, all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 02:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We still have Aborigines, Appalachia, ghettos of Big Cities, USA,  ...starving people in the world who have never seen a fork. Backwards people who don&#039;t know what a coffeepot is. Human trafficking, where slaves don&#039;t see the light of day...The world is still in survival mode. They don&#039;t give a shit about dark matter, universes, plasma arrays and delta quadrants, hexagonal prisms, Cap&#039;n Crunch, jell-o shots, or soft cottony toilet paper.
They are never going to know what even my nine year old granddaughter knows. EVER. 
You bet your electric shaver and Diet Coke and tampons there are people out there who would worship a technological anything that they had never seen before.

The Gods Must Be Crazy.  

This is the way it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We still have Aborigines, Appalachia, ghettos of Big Cities, USA,  &#8230;starving people in the world who have never seen a fork. Backwards people who don&#8217;t know what a coffeepot is. Human trafficking, where slaves don&#8217;t see the light of day&#8230;The world is still in survival mode. They don&#8217;t give a shit about dark matter, universes, plasma arrays and delta quadrants, hexagonal prisms, Cap&#8217;n Crunch, jell-o shots, or soft cottony toilet paper.<br />
They are never going to know what even my nine year old granddaughter knows. EVER.<br />
You bet your electric shaver and Diet Coke and tampons there are people out there who would worship a technological anything that they had never seen before.</p>
<p>The Gods Must Be Crazy.  </p>
<p>This is the way it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 01:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that Frank!!!</description>
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