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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;ve never heard of a handgun like this.</title>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/08/22/ive-never-heard-of-a-handgun-like-this/#comment-31570</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pirates are definitely a threat.

Not the Somali and Malay pros, who arm themselves with AKs and RPGs, you&#039;re not likely to be able to fight them off successfully no matter what heat you&#039;re packing.  Its the local home invasion/hijacker/druggie types who come aboard when you&#039;re anchored in some secluded cove to steal your stuff, or your boat, you have to worry about. You&#039;re in a remote, wild place, you can&#039;t hide, you&#039;re unfamiliar with the area and no one knows where you are, or exactly when you&#039;re due back. That makes you very vulnerable.  In Florida, boat thefts (for use in the drug trade) were becoming a serious problem until the authorities started cracking down.  The owners were usually never found again, and the boat usually turned up later, gutted and abandoned. after one very profitable haul. 

For the blue water cruiser, I do not recommend guns.  Foreign governments are not hospitable to them, and Customs people know where you&#039;re likely to be hiding them. There are yachtsmen in jail in Jamaica because one cartridge was found on their boat.In the few countries that won&#039;t arrest you on the spot for having one, the paperwork , and the fact they are confiscated until you&#039;re ready to leave, make them more trouble than they&#039;re worth.

I have a friend who used to spend some weeks at a time fishing in the Ten Thousand Islands area of SW FL, where the Glades meet the Gulf of Mexico. (Check it out in Google Earth, its a remote wilderness of narrow channels, salt water marshes, and mangrove swamps, only accessible by boat.) He was on a shallow draft houseboat suitable for navigating those waters, but he never went alone and he never went unarmed.  The area is far from towns or roads, and is a harsh environment for anyone without a boat to sleep on. Besides the drug smugglers, the place was frequented by fugitives who blended in with the sportsmen who came to the place.

I used to sail to small offshore islands or remote beaches and camp out, I might be only a few miles from civilization, but I might as well have been in the Outback.  A boatload of teenagers cruising the beach is probably benign, but if they&#039;re not you have nowhere to run.  I was always armed.  This was before cell phones, but they would not have helped much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pirates are definitely a threat.</p>
<p>Not the Somali and Malay pros, who arm themselves with AKs and RPGs, you&#8217;re not likely to be able to fight them off successfully no matter what heat you&#8217;re packing.  Its the local home invasion/hijacker/druggie types who come aboard when you&#8217;re anchored in some secluded cove to steal your stuff, or your boat, you have to worry about. You&#8217;re in a remote, wild place, you can&#8217;t hide, you&#8217;re unfamiliar with the area and no one knows where you are, or exactly when you&#8217;re due back. That makes you very vulnerable.  In Florida, boat thefts (for use in the drug trade) were becoming a serious problem until the authorities started cracking down.  The owners were usually never found again, and the boat usually turned up later, gutted and abandoned. after one very profitable haul. </p>
<p>For the blue water cruiser, I do not recommend guns.  Foreign governments are not hospitable to them, and Customs people know where you&#8217;re likely to be hiding them. There are yachtsmen in jail in Jamaica because one cartridge was found on their boat.In the few countries that won&#8217;t arrest you on the spot for having one, the paperwork , and the fact they are confiscated until you&#8217;re ready to leave, make them more trouble than they&#8217;re worth.</p>
<p>I have a friend who used to spend some weeks at a time fishing in the Ten Thousand Islands area of SW FL, where the Glades meet the Gulf of Mexico. (Check it out in Google Earth, its a remote wilderness of narrow channels, salt water marshes, and mangrove swamps, only accessible by boat.) He was on a shallow draft houseboat suitable for navigating those waters, but he never went alone and he never went unarmed.  The area is far from towns or roads, and is a harsh environment for anyone without a boat to sleep on. Besides the drug smugglers, the place was frequented by fugitives who blended in with the sportsmen who came to the place.</p>
<p>I used to sail to small offshore islands or remote beaches and camp out, I might be only a few miles from civilization, but I might as well have been in the Outback.  A boatload of teenagers cruising the beach is probably benign, but if they&#8217;re not you have nowhere to run.  I was always armed.  This was before cell phones, but they would not have helped much.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/08/22/ive-never-heard-of-a-handgun-like-this/#comment-31569</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 05:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>`I have no idea as to the kind of threat one would want to arm themselves against while sailing.  It seems to me that any professional pirate would have the typical sailor outgunned.  No one is going to &quot;declare&quot; themselves until they had the upper hand.  Any other threat would seem to come from someone who had ingratiated themselves into the boaters confidence, and be aboard.  But then again, weight isn&#039;t a problem and one could have several different weapons.

Hiking and backpacking is a bit different.  Bears, maybe coyotes, and some of the cat family might be threats.  The bears would require a large caliber rapid firing weapon, which would suffice against anything else.  Including humans.

Snakes aren&#039;t really a threat.  By the time you would have gotten ready to shoot them they&#039;ll be gone.  Or it&#039;s easy to walk around them.  At least that&#039;s true for the snakes I&#039;ve run across on the West Coast.  They would prefer to not mess with you.

People can be a problem, but it&#039;s best to stay away from them or find strength in numbers.  A readily available small handgun would be best, but wouldn&#039;t be good against bears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>`I have no idea as to the kind of threat one would want to arm themselves against while sailing.  It seems to me that any professional pirate would have the typical sailor outgunned.  No one is going to &#8220;declare&#8221; themselves until they had the upper hand.  Any other threat would seem to come from someone who had ingratiated themselves into the boaters confidence, and be aboard.  But then again, weight isn&#8217;t a problem and one could have several different weapons.</p>
<p>Hiking and backpacking is a bit different.  Bears, maybe coyotes, and some of the cat family might be threats.  The bears would require a large caliber rapid firing weapon, which would suffice against anything else.  Including humans.</p>
<p>Snakes aren&#8217;t really a threat.  By the time you would have gotten ready to shoot them they&#8217;ll be gone.  Or it&#8217;s easy to walk around them.  At least that&#8217;s true for the snakes I&#8217;ve run across on the West Coast.  They would prefer to not mess with you.</p>
<p>People can be a problem, but it&#8217;s best to stay away from them or find strength in numbers.  A readily available small handgun would be best, but wouldn&#8217;t be good against bears.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 03:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to have a weapon that can safely chamber several different types of ammunition, for both economy, versatility, and if you are of the survivalist persuasion.  Ruger makes a really nice double action revolver with interchangeable cylinders that can handle .22 LR or .22 WMR (the former is a lot cheaper).  .357 and .44 Magnum firearms can handle the lighter .38 and .44 Special loads, but it doesn&#039;t work the other way round.  I&#039;ve always felt a good combination for deep woods or a marine &quot;repel boarders&quot; kit would be a .44 Magnum rifle and pistol, the latter loaded with the more manageable .44 Special load. In a pinch, either ammunition would work in either weapon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to have a weapon that can safely chamber several different types of ammunition, for both economy, versatility, and if you are of the survivalist persuasion.  Ruger makes a really nice double action revolver with interchangeable cylinders that can handle .22 LR or .22 WMR (the former is a lot cheaper).  .357 and .44 Magnum firearms can handle the lighter .38 and .44 Special loads, but it doesn&#8217;t work the other way round.  I&#8217;ve always felt a good combination for deep woods or a marine &#8220;repel boarders&#8221; kit would be a .44 Magnum rifle and pistol, the latter loaded with the more manageable .44 Special load. In a pinch, either ammunition would work in either weapon.</p>
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