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	<title>Comments on: ISIS</title>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2014/08/28/isis/#comment-31627</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 12:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...except for a journalist or two.  The Americans are leaving Iraq, and their regular armed forces already left.  ISIS is killing Syrians (both pro- and anti-Assad), Arabs, Kurds, Christians and Shiites, and even a lot of fellow Sunnis BECAUSE the Americans are leaving.  No one has &quot;invaded their homes&quot;, they are invading everyone elses homes.  

The reason they are able to do this is because we dismantled Saddam&#039;s army and our puppet botched the job of rebuilding it, so it can be argued we, the US, are ultimately responsible for ISIS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;except for a journalist or two.  The Americans are leaving Iraq, and their regular armed forces already left.  ISIS is killing Syrians (both pro- and anti-Assad), Arabs, Kurds, Christians and Shiites, and even a lot of fellow Sunnis BECAUSE the Americans are leaving.  No one has &#8220;invaded their homes&#8221;, they are invading everyone elses homes.  </p>
<p>The reason they are able to do this is because we dismantled Saddam&#8217;s army and our puppet botched the job of rebuilding it, so it can be argued we, the US, are ultimately responsible for ISIS.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 04:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, but, but, but,-----

The Americans are killing everyone who doesn&#039;t go along with them, too.  We expect everyone in the world to have America&#039;s best interests at heart, to forsake their way of living, their ways of adapting to their environment and support what is in effect American imperialism.

I haven&#039;t seen a reason for taking on ISIS.  They are killing Americans, true, but they are killing the Americans who are killing them.  On their own turf.  

They aren&#039;t nice people, I&#039;ll admit.  Neither are Americans.  So why don&#039;t we just go home?  The world will not come to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but, but, but,&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>The Americans are killing everyone who doesn&#8217;t go along with them, too.  We expect everyone in the world to have America&#8217;s best interests at heart, to forsake their way of living, their ways of adapting to their environment and support what is in effect American imperialism.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen a reason for taking on ISIS.  They are killing Americans, true, but they are killing the Americans who are killing them.  On their own turf.  </p>
<p>They aren&#8217;t nice people, I&#8217;ll admit.  Neither are Americans.  So why don&#8217;t we just go home?  The world will not come to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 01:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ISIS isn&#039;t killing invading Americans, they&#039;re mostly killing Muslims, and mostly (but not exclusively) Shia or other non-Sunni Muslims. In fact, they&#039;re killing everyone that doesn&#039;t go along with their plan. These are not anti-imperialist freedom fighters, they&#039;re bloodthirsty religious fanatics who aren&#039;t interested in saving their country, but in establishing a whole new one all of their own.

Having said that, the almost simultaneous chant of &quot;Something has to be done about ISIS right away.&quot; seems to suddenly be on everyone&#039;s lips, and I mean very suddenly, and EVERYONE&#039;s.  It reminds me a lot of &quot;WMDs&quot;, &quot;Communist-inspired Sandinistas&quot;, and &quot;Domino Theory&quot;. Asd much as I hate to admit it, I must confess the plot of this movie is starting to sound very familiar.  Still, I trust Obama in this.  Deliberately trying to whip us up to another war is just not his style, and so far, he&#039;s handling this pretty much the same way I would.

If you&#039;re looking for conspiracies, try this one on for size.  The Americans are desperately trying to disentangle themselves from the Middle East, which, as you point out, is the major raison d&#039;etre for Jihadis. Without us there, they are essentially out of work.  We are their mission statement. I don&#039;t think we&#039;re looking for an excuse to stay, I think they&#039;re doing everything they can to keep us from leaving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISIS isn&#8217;t killing invading Americans, they&#8217;re mostly killing Muslims, and mostly (but not exclusively) Shia or other non-Sunni Muslims. In fact, they&#8217;re killing everyone that doesn&#8217;t go along with their plan. These are not anti-imperialist freedom fighters, they&#8217;re bloodthirsty religious fanatics who aren&#8217;t interested in saving their country, but in establishing a whole new one all of their own.</p>
<p>Having said that, the almost simultaneous chant of &#8220;Something has to be done about ISIS right away.&#8221; seems to suddenly be on everyone&#8217;s lips, and I mean very suddenly, and EVERYONE&#8217;s.  It reminds me a lot of &#8220;WMDs&#8221;, &#8220;Communist-inspired Sandinistas&#8221;, and &#8220;Domino Theory&#8221;. Asd much as I hate to admit it, I must confess the plot of this movie is starting to sound very familiar.  Still, I trust Obama in this.  Deliberately trying to whip us up to another war is just not his style, and so far, he&#8217;s handling this pretty much the same way I would.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for conspiracies, try this one on for size.  The Americans are desperately trying to disentangle themselves from the Middle East, which, as you point out, is the major raison d&#8217;etre for Jihadis. Without us there, they are essentially out of work.  We are their mission statement. I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re looking for an excuse to stay, I think they&#8217;re doing everything they can to keep us from leaving.</p>
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