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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-34293</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 04:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the 30 or so folks writing about the time Jesus lived at the time he was alive, none of them mention Jesus.

Says something.</description>
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<p>Says something.</p>
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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-34012</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 17:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of George RR, anybody read his collection of short stories, &quot;A Song for Lya?&quot; Absolutely brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of George RR, anybody read his collection of short stories, &#8220;A Song for Lya?&#8221; Absolutely brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-33997</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 05:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I don&#039;t believe in all the god stuff, or the miracles, or the virgin birth or the resurrection or any of the other supernatural stuff.

But I do think Jesus existed.  He lived in the first century AD, and was a charismatic preacher and philosopher and was executed by the authorities because they saw him as a political threat, a potential, or even possibly a real, rebel.  He had many followers, and after his death people remembered him enough that stories about him arose and were believed too. The stories were outrageous myths, of course, but were close enough to the real history of those times that I think his philosophy has survived in scripture pretty much as it was originally expressed. 

And it survived because it was a good philosophy.  Once you strip it of it tribal Jewish roots, it is quite revolutionary, actually.  Everybody is equal, everybody is the same, and all you have to do to get to Paradise is be good to people and feel genuinely sorry for your sins.  Of course, much of that philosophy was ignored by his followers through history, but enough survived to keep his religion popular, and growing.

I love these religious threads we have here in the Zone.  I give my same little speech, Bowser tells us Jesus was a Communist, and Tom reminds us yet again how the Communists were shits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I don&#8217;t believe in all the god stuff, or the miracles, or the virgin birth or the resurrection or any of the other supernatural stuff.</p>
<p>But I do think Jesus existed.  He lived in the first century AD, and was a charismatic preacher and philosopher and was executed by the authorities because they saw him as a political threat, a potential, or even possibly a real, rebel.  He had many followers, and after his death people remembered him enough that stories about him arose and were believed too. The stories were outrageous myths, of course, but were close enough to the real history of those times that I think his philosophy has survived in scripture pretty much as it was originally expressed. </p>
<p>And it survived because it was a good philosophy.  Once you strip it of it tribal Jewish roots, it is quite revolutionary, actually.  Everybody is equal, everybody is the same, and all you have to do to get to Paradise is be good to people and feel genuinely sorry for your sins.  Of course, much of that philosophy was ignored by his followers through history, but enough survived to keep his religion popular, and growing.</p>
<p>I love these religious threads we have here in the Zone.  I give my same little speech, Bowser tells us Jesus was a Communist, and Tom reminds us yet again how the Communists were shits.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-33993</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 05:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what Jesus is alleged to have said.  Beautiful.  I have to admit that if he existed he was the greatest person of whom I&#039;ve heard.  He was inclusive, forgiving and loving, a far cry from his followers with the possible exception of Desmond Tutu and Mother Teresa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what Jesus is alleged to have said.  Beautiful.  I have to admit that if he existed he was the greatest person of whom I&#8217;ve heard.  He was inclusive, forgiving and loving, a far cry from his followers with the possible exception of Desmond Tutu and Mother Teresa.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-33990</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 05:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0667945/

I never read the novel but the TV production was excellent for 90s TV

It is actually a short story (novelette if you prefer) that was part of an Anthology undre the title Sandkings.

A complete pdf of the story is available online if anyone cares to read it.</description>
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<p>I never read the novel but the TV production was excellent for 90s TV</p>
<p>It is actually a short story (novelette if you prefer) that was part of an Anthology undre the title Sandkings.</p>
<p>A complete pdf of the story is available online if anyone cares to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-33989</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 04:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still dig the message of peace, love thy neighbor, do your best to not be an asshole, and all that.</description>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-33988</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 04:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;King of Kings, Poll of Poles&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;King of Kings, Poll of Poles&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-33987</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 04:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big chunk o&#039; my DNA comes from the south end of the Emerald Isle, County Cork. I&#039;m right there with you, cousin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big chunk o&#8217; my DNA comes from the south end of the Emerald Isle, County Cork. I&#8217;m right there with you, cousin.</p>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-33986</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 04:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He and his followers shared everything. He hated the bankers, the moneychangers, the sort of folks Conservatives love and protect.</description>
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		<title>By: bowser</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/24/church-readerboard/#comment-33985</link>
		<dc:creator>bowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2015 04:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched a Youtube presentation by a fellow who claims that there were about 30 historians writing during and shortly after the time Jesus was alleged to have lived and not one of them mentions him.

His thesis was that Jesus didn&#039;t exist and was invented later.  There are a number of folks who make that argument, rather convincingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched a Youtube presentation by a fellow who claims that there were about 30 historians writing during and shortly after the time Jesus was alleged to have lived and not one of them mentions him.</p>
<p>His thesis was that Jesus didn&#8217;t exist and was invented later.  There are a number of folks who make that argument, rather convincingly.</p>
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