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	<title>Comments on: Not happy with being a garden-variety fascist&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/25/not-happy-with-being-a-garden-variety-fascist/#comment-34081</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2015 03:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heh. You caught up now?&lt;/p&gt;

Obama a &quot;socialist?&quot; I would lay heavy odds that Obama believes pretty much the same things about how to run a country that Bernie Sanders does.

Somehow I can&#039;t visualize him looking at Bernie&#039;s list of projects and goals, pointing to one, and saying &quot;oh, no, that&#039;s too much government.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. You caught up now?</p>
<p>Obama a &#8220;socialist?&#8221; I would lay heavy odds that Obama believes pretty much the same things about how to run a country that Bernie Sanders does.</p>
<p>Somehow I can&#8217;t visualize him looking at Bernie&#8217;s list of projects and goals, pointing to one, and saying &#8220;oh, no, that&#8217;s too much government.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BuckGalaxy</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/25/not-happy-with-being-a-garden-variety-fascist/#comment-34079</link>
		<dc:creator>BuckGalaxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2015 02:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t suppose the rightwing bullshit machine had anything to do with the rise of the Teatards?  All their vile garbage about Obama being a socialist, muslim, kenyan had nothign to do with it?  That he hates America and hates white people?  He is deliberately trying to destroy America?  He&#039;s a terrorist, a dictator.  Healthcare is a plot to suspend the constitution?  

The GOP made a conscious decision when Obama was elected to oppose and block everything he tried to do even though the nation and world were in a crisis.  They have continued to push preposterous lies about him his entire presidency, further feeding the insaniTEA.  Yes the Democrats play hardball politics but the GOP just make shit up.  Of course Democrats pounced on whatever they could on Romney, but did they name their convention on a comment taken completely out of context  like the republicans did (we built it)? They had so little to offer they based the name of their convention on a lie.  

Republicans are so deluded about Obama they actually believe he was watching Benghazi live and, when he could have saved them,  said &quot;fuck &#039;em, let them die&quot; to the JCOS, AND THEN the JCOS and every other member of the military command involved covered it up and lied to Congress 16 times to protect the President.  How fucking stupid can your side be?!?  These are the idiots supporting Trump.  They were created by the deliberate misinformation dumped on them by the rightwing media alternate universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t suppose the rightwing bullshit machine had anything to do with the rise of the Teatards?  All their vile garbage about Obama being a socialist, muslim, kenyan had nothign to do with it?  That he hates America and hates white people?  He is deliberately trying to destroy America?  He&#8217;s a terrorist, a dictator.  Healthcare is a plot to suspend the constitution?  </p>
<p>The GOP made a conscious decision when Obama was elected to oppose and block everything he tried to do even though the nation and world were in a crisis.  They have continued to push preposterous lies about him his entire presidency, further feeding the insaniTEA.  Yes the Democrats play hardball politics but the GOP just make shit up.  Of course Democrats pounced on whatever they could on Romney, but did they name their convention on a comment taken completely out of context  like the republicans did (we built it)? They had so little to offer they based the name of their convention on a lie.  </p>
<p>Republicans are so deluded about Obama they actually believe he was watching Benghazi live and, when he could have saved them,  said &#8220;fuck &#8216;em, let them die&#8221; to the JCOS, AND THEN the JCOS and every other member of the military command involved covered it up and lied to Congress 16 times to protect the President.  How fucking stupid can your side be?!?  These are the idiots supporting Trump.  They were created by the deliberate misinformation dumped on them by the rightwing media alternate universe.</p>
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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/25/not-happy-with-being-a-garden-variety-fascist/#comment-34076</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall a time, not long ago at all, when the right viewed moderates as people who had no principles and couldn&#039;t be trusted.

Heck, the word &quot;moderate&quot; ranked up there with &quot;compromise&quot; on the list of conservative four-letter words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall a time, not long ago at all, when the right viewed moderates as people who had no principles and couldn&#8217;t be trusted.</p>
<p>Heck, the word &#8220;moderate&#8221; ranked up there with &#8220;compromise&#8221; on the list of conservative four-letter words.</p>
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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2015 00:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...who was immediately labelled a communist by conservatives, including right here. I recall the post.

The characterization was sufficiently off-base to inspire a correction by Rubio--who, btw, seems to be a decent, intelligent guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;who was immediately labelled a communist by conservatives, including right here. I recall the post.</p>
<p>The characterization was sufficiently off-base to inspire a correction by Rubio&#8211;who, btw, seems to be a decent, intelligent guy.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2015 00:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are. I can see why Robert said he was checking to make sure you weren&#039;t being hacked. You&#039;re systematically invoking every &lt;em&gt;reductio ad Hitlerum &lt;/em&gt;cliche, its as if an incompetent impostor was trying to impersonate you in some lunatic black propaganda scheme. These are indeed the most remarkable, most astonishing posts I&#039;ve ever seen you submit to the Zone.

You haven&#039;t given SDAI your Zone password, have you?  I always thought that guy was a troublemaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are. I can see why Robert said he was checking to make sure you weren&#8217;t being hacked. You&#8217;re systematically invoking every <em>reductio ad Hitlerum </em>cliche, its as if an incompetent impostor was trying to impersonate you in some lunatic black propaganda scheme. These are indeed the most remarkable, most astonishing posts I&#8217;ve ever seen you submit to the Zone.</p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t given SDAI your Zone password, have you?  I always thought that guy was a troublemaker.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2015 23:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve hit the Godwin Limit. Take a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve hit the Godwin Limit. Take a break.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2015 23:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You all that happy with Hillary or Bernie?&lt;/p&gt;

ER below mentioned people who are &quot;more concerned with the welfare of the nation than with their own ambition.&quot; You think Hillary fits that description? There is nothing in her mind except ambition. Her entire career has involved clawing her way to political power.

Isn&#039;t that a bit dangerous, too?

For all the blinders you&#039;ve had to put on, has Obama really been all that good at his job? (I almost spit coffee into my keyboard when you started railing about &quot;narcissism.&quot;)

Sidebar 1: You see where Hillary dropped &quot;Rodham&quot; from her name? Now it&#039;s going to be &quot;Save me, Bill!&quot; Look for a lot of Bill on the road.

Sidebar 2: I originally come from Minnesota, a blue state that stood alone for Mondale in 1984, yet elected a professional wrestler as governor and a Saturday Night Live comic as Senator. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all that happy with Hillary or Bernie?</p>
<p>ER below mentioned people who are &#8220;more concerned with the welfare of the nation than with their own ambition.&#8221; You think Hillary fits that description? There is nothing in her mind except ambition. Her entire career has involved clawing her way to political power.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that a bit dangerous, too?</p>
<p>For all the blinders you&#8217;ve had to put on, has Obama really been all that good at his job? (I almost spit coffee into my keyboard when you started railing about &#8220;narcissism.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Sidebar 1: You see where Hillary dropped &#8220;Rodham&#8221; from her name? Now it&#8217;s going to be &#8220;Save me, Bill!&#8221; Look for a lot of Bill on the road.</p>
<p>Sidebar 2: I originally come from Minnesota, a blue state that stood alone for Mondale in 1984, yet elected a professional wrestler as governor and a Saturday Night Live comic as Senator. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
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		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2015 23:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enzyme breakdown.

What&#039;s next? Invading Poland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enzyme breakdown.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next? Invading Poland?</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2015 23:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You haven&#039;t been paying attention either.&lt;/p&gt;

There is a revolt going on in the Republican Party (&quot;You said it, they stink on ice!&quot;), where voters and many congressmen have decided that the leadership has been going down the wrong road. Can&#039;t tell the pigs from the men any more.

So now a lot of Republicans in Washington are ornery, individualist troublemakers, causing chaos, kicking the leadership around, and generally lowering property values. It&#039;s the sort of thing you won&#039;t see in the well-ordered Democratic Party hierarchy, where obedience to leaders and central authority is built into the system, and the political process is smooth and without nasty roadblocks or opposition.

On top of that, we have an election where one side looks like a professional wrestling tournament, and the other side is just waiting to hang the medal on the Party&#039;s Chosen One.

Yeah, it&#039;s a mess (I&#039;m sorry, which side was &quot;authoritarian&quot; again? I tend to lose track).

There are a lot of bad things going on out there, including stuff that used to make news when a Republican was president. When was the last time you saw a news story on deficits or the debt? You shopped for insurance lately? I have. The Middle East is melting down, and Russia and China have decided the world might need a new policeman.

France is making us look like chickenshits! Dogs and cats, living together!

It looks like the locomotive is heading for a cliff, and people have been pushing all the proper buttons and pulling the right levers that are supposed to change course, or at least halt the careening progress, and nothing has changed.

Sometimes there comes a point where the cliff is approaching, and the only thing left to do is drop an enormous monkey wrench into the whirling gears. There might be flying shrapnel, but it could also get the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You haven&#8217;t been paying attention either.</p>
<p>There is a revolt going on in the Republican Party (&#8220;You said it, they stink on ice!&#8221;), where voters and many congressmen have decided that the leadership has been going down the wrong road. Can&#8217;t tell the pigs from the men any more.</p>
<p>So now a lot of Republicans in Washington are ornery, individualist troublemakers, causing chaos, kicking the leadership around, and generally lowering property values. It&#8217;s the sort of thing you won&#8217;t see in the well-ordered Democratic Party hierarchy, where obedience to leaders and central authority is built into the system, and the political process is smooth and without nasty roadblocks or opposition.</p>
<p>On top of that, we have an election where one side looks like a professional wrestling tournament, and the other side is just waiting to hang the medal on the Party&#8217;s Chosen One.</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s a mess (I&#8217;m sorry, which side was &#8220;authoritarian&#8221; again? I tend to lose track).</p>
<p>There are a lot of bad things going on out there, including stuff that used to make news when a Republican was president. When was the last time you saw a news story on deficits or the debt? You shopped for insurance lately? I have. The Middle East is melting down, and Russia and China have decided the world might need a new policeman.</p>
<p>France is making us look like chickenshits! Dogs and cats, living together!</p>
<p>It looks like the locomotive is heading for a cliff, and people have been pushing all the proper buttons and pulling the right levers that are supposed to change course, or at least halt the careening progress, and nothing has changed.</p>
<p>Sometimes there comes a point where the cliff is approaching, and the only thing left to do is drop an enormous monkey wrench into the whirling gears. There might be flying shrapnel, but it could also get the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2015/11/25/not-happy-with-being-a-garden-variety-fascist/#comment-34068</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2015 23:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to dink with some posts six or seven times before they look right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to dink with some posts six or seven times before they look right.</p>
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