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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/01/13/the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-35130</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 02:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All those flaming Conservatives from a few years back are now RINOs, Moderates, Establishment.  No, they haven&#039;t changed, they are still the same, just the definition of Conservative keeps going further and further Right. And they show no evidence of stopping any time soon.

They, and the people they appeal to, have finally started to come to terms that they have been lied to, conned, taken for a ride, betrayed.  All their lives, they have been told that if they kept their nose clean and worked hard and played by the rules
that one day they would be successful businessmen, with workers of their own to exploit; or at least, their children would be.

Now they know that&#039;s not going to happen, and they&#039;re pissed. They need to blame it on somebody, because they can&#039;t bring themselves to admit that they have been betrayed and lied to by precisely those people they wished to emulate, the people they wished to become. 

Sure, the world has changed, the country has changed, history happened and the economy has evolved away from the golden post-war era when America owned everything and could always get its way. But these people have been left behind and its too late for them, or their kids.  And the ship is sinking around them.

And the people they followed, those whose lives they envied, the ones who lied to them, they got to the lifeboats first and they&#039;re not looking back.

Its happened before, in Germany right after World War I.  That&#039;s why the rabble, and the demagogues who manipulate them, all sound so familiar.

And that&#039;s why they hate Obama so much.  They can&#039;t even elect one of their own as President any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those flaming Conservatives from a few years back are now RINOs, Moderates, Establishment.  No, they haven&#8217;t changed, they are still the same, just the definition of Conservative keeps going further and further Right. And they show no evidence of stopping any time soon.</p>
<p>They, and the people they appeal to, have finally started to come to terms that they have been lied to, conned, taken for a ride, betrayed.  All their lives, they have been told that if they kept their nose clean and worked hard and played by the rules<br />
that one day they would be successful businessmen, with workers of their own to exploit; or at least, their children would be.</p>
<p>Now they know that&#8217;s not going to happen, and they&#8217;re pissed. They need to blame it on somebody, because they can&#8217;t bring themselves to admit that they have been betrayed and lied to by precisely those people they wished to emulate, the people they wished to become. </p>
<p>Sure, the world has changed, the country has changed, history happened and the economy has evolved away from the golden post-war era when America owned everything and could always get its way. But these people have been left behind and its too late for them, or their kids.  And the ship is sinking around them.</p>
<p>And the people they followed, those whose lives they envied, the ones who lied to them, they got to the lifeboats first and they&#8217;re not looking back.</p>
<p>Its happened before, in Germany right after World War I.  That&#8217;s why the rabble, and the demagogues who manipulate them, all sound so familiar.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why they hate Obama so much.  They can&#8217;t even elect one of their own as President any more.</p>
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		<title>By: mcfly</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/01/13/the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-35123</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 01:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember strikingly similar posts being made years ago about the tea partiers...&quot;grassroots rebellion,&quot; &quot;confused liberals.&quot; It was supposed to be doomsday for the Dems.

I think it was really nice of conservatives to delay the rebellion til after President Obama&#039;s second term. Damn sporting, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember strikingly similar posts being made years ago about the tea partiers&#8230;&#8221;grassroots rebellion,&#8221; &#8220;confused liberals.&#8221; It was supposed to be doomsday for the Dems.</p>
<p>I think it was really nice of conservatives to delay the rebellion til after President Obama&#8217;s second term. Damn sporting, really.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/01/13/the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-35121</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 21:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you&#039;re singing the praises of the Manhattan Mussolini.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you&#8217;re singing the praises of the Manhattan Mussolini.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/01/13/the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-35120</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 21:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In related news:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265647-upset-gop-donors-have-we-wasted-our-money&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SuperPACs wondering what the hell happened.&lt;/a&gt;

Hundreds of millions of Uncle Pennybags cash blown sky high. You&#039;d think you&#039;d be having a party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In related news:</p>
<p><a href="http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265647-upset-gop-donors-have-we-wasted-our-money" rel="nofollow">SuperPACs wondering what the hell happened.</a></p>
<p>Hundreds of millions of Uncle Pennybags cash blown sky high. You&#8217;d think you&#8217;d be having a party.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/01/13/the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-35119</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 20:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course you do.&lt;/p&gt;

None of them would seriously inconvenience the Democratic agenda, or would be likely to beat a Democratic candidate (look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;poll site&lt;/a&gt; again and click through to the graphs).

And of course you&#039;re baffled.

You keep trying to pound square pegs into the round holes of your worldview. I could go into a lot of detail, but I won&#039;t.

Leave it at this: you spent years complaining about how corporate cronyism rules our politics with an iron fist, and now when they&#039;re falling flat on their face in &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; parties (took the Democrats long enough to kick over their traces) you don&#039;t even realize what it means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course you do.</p>
<p>None of them would seriously inconvenience the Democratic agenda, or would be likely to beat a Democratic candidate (look at the <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html" rel="nofollow">poll site</a> again and click through to the graphs).</p>
<p>And of course you&#8217;re baffled.</p>
<p>You keep trying to pound square pegs into the round holes of your worldview. I could go into a lot of detail, but I won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Leave it at this: you spent years complaining about how corporate cronyism rules our politics with an iron fist, and now when they&#8217;re falling flat on their face in <i>both</i> parties (took the Democrats long enough to kick over their traces) you don&#8217;t even realize what it means.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/01/13/the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-35116</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...compared to the walking, talking, monsters from hell your &quot;grass roots&quot; is conjuring up from the Stygian cesspits of Lower Middle America.

I can at least understand the motivations of plutocrats and oligarchs.  But I&#039;m totally baffled and terrified, even revolted, by your revolution.  I&#039;d rather vote for a Nixon than any of these carbon units.

Besides, I think Nikki&#039;s kinda cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;compared to the walking, talking, monsters from hell your &#8220;grass roots&#8221; is conjuring up from the Stygian cesspits of Lower Middle America.</p>
<p>I can at least understand the motivations of plutocrats and oligarchs.  But I&#8217;m totally baffled and terrified, even revolted, by your revolution.  I&#8217;d rather vote for a Nixon than any of these carbon units.</p>
<p>Besides, I think Nikki&#8217;s kinda cute.</p>
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		<title>By: TB</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/01/13/the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-35114</link>
		<dc:creator>TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the person the Republican Party wants me to vote for:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://habitablezone.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Capture2.jpg&quot; width=&quot;600&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

This is the person the Democratic Party wants you to vote for:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://habitablezone.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Lobbyists.jpg&quot; width=&quot;600&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;

The financial engines and usual mechanisms that were supposed to deliver the &quot;right&quot; candidates to power aren&#039;t working any more. Jeb was supposed to be able to spend his way to the nomination, and Hillary was supposed to be anointed. What&#039;s happening instead?

After years of talking &quot;revolution,&quot; you&#039;re seeing a real one. That&#039;s because most of the &quot;revolutions&quot; liberals talk about were just one set of tyrants replacing the other while the people cowered in fear. This is what &quot;grass roots&quot; really looks like. I&#039;ve been watching &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this page.&lt;/a&gt; You should too.

The Democrats think Haley made a wonderful speech. That&#039;s all anyone needs to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the person the Republican Party wants me to vote for:</p>
<p><img src="http://habitablezone.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Capture2.jpg" width="600" alt="" /></p>
<p>This is the person the Democratic Party wants you to vote for:</p>
<p><img src="http://habitablezone.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Lobbyists.jpg" width="600" alt="" /></p>
<p>The financial engines and usual mechanisms that were supposed to deliver the &#8220;right&#8221; candidates to power aren&#8217;t working any more. Jeb was supposed to be able to spend his way to the nomination, and Hillary was supposed to be anointed. What&#8217;s happening instead?</p>
<p>After years of talking &#8220;revolution,&#8221; you&#8217;re seeing a real one. That&#8217;s because most of the &#8220;revolutions&#8221; liberals talk about were just one set of tyrants replacing the other while the people cowered in fear. This is what &#8220;grass roots&#8221; really looks like. I&#8217;ve been watching <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html" rel="nofollow">this page.</a> You should too.</p>
<p>The Democrats think Haley made a wonderful speech. That&#8217;s all anyone needs to know.</p>
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		<title>By: ER</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/01/13/the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-35110</link>
		<dc:creator>ER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But its who follows him I fear.  He&#039;s opened a lot of doors that may not be flung wide open, but they won&#039;t soon be slammed shut again either.   They will be left ajar for others to slither in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But its who follows him I fear.  He&#8217;s opened a lot of doors that may not be flung wide open, but they won&#8217;t soon be slammed shut again either.   They will be left ajar for others to slither in.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/01/13/the-empire-strikes-back/#comment-35109</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there will be the GREAT DIASPORA of the U.S. so we will find out what all this immigration bias will feel like. Karma, don&#039;t you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there will be the GREAT DIASPORA of the U.S. so we will find out what all this immigration bias will feel like. Karma, don&#8217;t you know.</p>
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