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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37963</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....see above...
Your sanity, however, is a different matter....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.see above&#8230;<br />
Your sanity, however, is a different matter&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37962</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have done the math for you countless ways and countless times over many years... but this post by et in 2003 sums it up:
&lt;img src=&quot;http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/rlafon1/USER%20CAPTURE%20JH2003%2012%203%2012_18PT15.jpg&quot;&gt;

And you persist wasting our time and yours being willfully stupid- despite the fact you promised to drop it 13 years ago:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/rlafon1/USER%20CAPTURE%20JH2003%2012%203%209_58PT3.jpg&quot;&gt;

You don&#039;t even understand how units work, and you call people that make their living in the sciences &#039;ignorant&#039;? 

Given 13 years you could have educated yourself on this topic, but all you did was remain a fool.

So no, I wont go through the math for you again, you aren&#039;t worth the pointless effort- since you won&#039;t put in the effort to listen or learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have done the math for you countless ways and countless times over many years&#8230; but this post by et in 2003 sums it up:<br />
<img src="http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/rlafon1/USER%20CAPTURE%20JH2003%2012%203%2012_18PT15.jpg"/></p>
<p>And you persist wasting our time and yours being willfully stupid- despite the fact you promised to drop it 13 years ago:</p>
<p><img src="http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w421/rlafon1/USER%20CAPTURE%20JH2003%2012%203%209_58PT3.jpg"/></p>
<p>You don&#8217;t even understand how units work, and you call people that make their living in the sciences &#8216;ignorant&#8217;? </p>
<p>Given 13 years you could have educated yourself on this topic, but all you did was remain a fool.</p>
<p>So no, I wont go through the math for you again, you aren&#8217;t worth the pointless effort- since you won&#8217;t put in the effort to listen or learn.</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37961</link>
		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.NT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.NT</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37960</link>
		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2017 02:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compressing my concept into very few words.

Radioactive atoms impart kinetic energy or heat onto their surroundings.

Atoms or ions that travel away from the Earth faster than the escape velocity can escape into interstellar space.

Nuclear explosions have been set off at high altitudes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compressing my concept into very few words.</p>
<p>Radioactive atoms impart kinetic energy or heat onto their surroundings.</p>
<p>Atoms or ions that travel away from the Earth faster than the escape velocity can escape into interstellar space.</p>
<p>Nuclear explosions have been set off at high altitudes.</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37876</link>
		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2017 05:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Let’s recap what transpired.
I wrote: I think I called the ions in the upper atmosphere as being radioactive and not “hot hydrogen.”
That was many years ago.
You responded: Please post your delusions elsewhere by RL 2016-12-12 05:26:09
I responded: YOU did not even read the info on the link I provided by johannes 2016-12-14
You responded: Yes, I did... by RL 2016-12-14 19:24:27.  The article had nothing to do with radioactivity and your claims regarding radioactivity.
It in no way supports the wildly inaccurate and incoherent claims you have been repeatedly making over the past decade and a half or more.

I responded: You object to the fact that I pointed out that; radioactivity imparts kinetic energy, or heats surrounding molecules, even if those molecules exist in the upper atmosphere.
You responded: If you are simply going to claim I am saying things I am not, then there is no point... by RL 2016-12-28 16:52:34
What I have been saying for “over the past decade and a half or more” as you so eloquently put it, is that: ”Radioactivity imparts kinetic energy, or heats surrounding molecules, even if those molecules exist in the upper atmosphere.”
It is true that they do not mention radioactivity specifically in that article, but they do mention many other ways in which the atoms in the upper atmosphere can obtain kinetic energy.
  http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13655
In the introduction they mention the following:
“Atomic hydrogen, as the dominant neutral constituent in the upper layer of the terrestrial atmosphere, is of critical importance for many disparate aspects of aeronomy and heliophysics, such as atmospheric chemistry and energetics, ion–neutral coupling and magnetospheric energy dissipation following geomagnetic storms1,2. Moreover, as the lightest neutral species in the atmosphere, atomic hydrogen requires the lowest energy to overcome the planet’s gravitational force and escape into interplanetary space. The permanent loss of hydrogen atoms, with an estimated global mean escape flux of ∼108 cm−2s−1, has a significant impact on long-term atmospheric evolution3. Ever since the introduction of the basic concepts of atmospheric evaporation in the pioneering works of Jeans4 and Spitzer5, decades of theoretical, modelling and observational efforts have been dedicated to understanding the distribution and dynamical transport of hydrogen atoms in the thermosphere (from ∼90 to 500 km altitude) and the exosphere (above ∼500 km altitude), a region collectively known as the geocorona.”
I specifically like this part: “, with an estimated global mean escape flux of ∼108 cm−2s−1, has a significant impact on long-term atmospheric evolution3.” That is what I tried to convey to you so many years ago.  The reason I mentioned radioactivity was because it causes an increase in the surrounding atoms and molecules, and also because there has been many nuclear explosions in the upper atmosphere.
See the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Let’s recap what transpired.<br />
I wrote: I think I called the ions in the upper atmosphere as being radioactive and not “hot hydrogen.”<br />
That was many years ago.<br />
You responded: Please post your delusions elsewhere by RL 2016-12-12 05:26:09<br />
I responded: YOU did not even read the info on the link I provided by johannes 2016-12-14<br />
You responded: Yes, I did&#8230; by RL 2016-12-14 19:24:27.  The article had nothing to do with radioactivity and your claims regarding radioactivity.<br />
It in no way supports the wildly inaccurate and incoherent claims you have been repeatedly making over the past decade and a half or more.</p>
<p>I responded: You object to the fact that I pointed out that; radioactivity imparts kinetic energy, or heats surrounding molecules, even if those molecules exist in the upper atmosphere.<br />
You responded: If you are simply going to claim I am saying things I am not, then there is no point&#8230; by RL 2016-12-28 16:52:34<br />
What I have been saying for “over the past decade and a half or more” as you so eloquently put it, is that: ”Radioactivity imparts kinetic energy, or heats surrounding molecules, even if those molecules exist in the upper atmosphere.”<br />
It is true that they do not mention radioactivity specifically in that article, but they do mention many other ways in which the atoms in the upper atmosphere can obtain kinetic energy.<br />
  <a href="http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13655" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13655</a><br />
In the introduction they mention the following:<br />
“Atomic hydrogen, as the dominant neutral constituent in the upper layer of the terrestrial atmosphere, is of critical importance for many disparate aspects of aeronomy and heliophysics, such as atmospheric chemistry and energetics, ion–neutral coupling and magnetospheric energy dissipation following geomagnetic storms1,2. Moreover, as the lightest neutral species in the atmosphere, atomic hydrogen requires the lowest energy to overcome the planet’s gravitational force and escape into interplanetary space. The permanent loss of hydrogen atoms, with an estimated global mean escape flux of ∼108 cm−2s−1, has a significant impact on long-term atmospheric evolution3. Ever since the introduction of the basic concepts of atmospheric evaporation in the pioneering works of Jeans4 and Spitzer5, decades of theoretical, modelling and observational efforts have been dedicated to understanding the distribution and dynamical transport of hydrogen atoms in the thermosphere (from ∼90 to 500 km altitude) and the exosphere (above ∼500 km altitude), a region collectively known as the geocorona.”<br />
I specifically like this part: “, with an estimated global mean escape flux of ∼108 cm−2s−1, has a significant impact on long-term atmospheric evolution3.” That is what I tried to convey to you so many years ago.  The reason I mentioned radioactivity was because it causes an increase in the surrounding atoms and molecules, and also because there has been many nuclear explosions in the upper atmosphere.<br />
See the link: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion</a></p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37856</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 00:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHAT I said is written in text in the post above, you ignored it completely and invented something else...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT I said is written in text in the post above, you ignored it completely and invented something else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37854</link>
		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting in deed.
You object to the fact that I pointed out that; radioactivity imparts kinetic energy, or heats surrounding molecules, even if those molecules exist in the upper atmosphere. I was under the impression that such a fact was known by most people and definitely by anyone that has read anything about the science behind nuclear fission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting in deed.<br />
You object to the fact that I pointed out that; radioactivity imparts kinetic energy, or heats surrounding molecules, even if those molecules exist in the upper atmosphere. I was under the impression that such a fact was known by most people and definitely by anyone that has read anything about the science behind nuclear fission.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37797</link>
		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2016 03:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what is more important is that I understood what I was reading... I have no problem with THEIR assessment. It is the fact that you try to latch on to any science article with a few key words and then claim that it supports your delusional navel gazing that I take issue with.

The article had nothing to do with radioactivity and your claims regarding radioactivity.

It in no way supports the wildly inaccurate and incoherent claims you have been repeatedly making over the past decade and a half or more.

You are wrong. Accept it and learn from it, but don&#039;t try to hijack other people&#039;s real work to bolster your nonsense. THAT is what offends me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what is more important is that I understood what I was reading&#8230; I have no problem with THEIR assessment. It is the fact that you try to latch on to any science article with a few key words and then claim that it supports your delusional navel gazing that I take issue with.</p>
<p>The article had nothing to do with radioactivity and your claims regarding radioactivity.</p>
<p>It in no way supports the wildly inaccurate and incoherent claims you have been repeatedly making over the past decade and a half or more.</p>
<p>You are wrong. Accept it and learn from it, but don&#8217;t try to hijack other people&#8217;s real work to bolster your nonsense. THAT is what offends me.</p>
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		<title>By: johannes</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37796</link>
		<dc:creator>johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2016 00:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this link it gives more detail on upper atmosphere

http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13655

I consider the information on the link as scientific, if you have a problem with their assessment of the upper atmosphere then take the matter to them.
I only indicated that many years ago I had thoughts in line with their research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this link it gives more detail on upper atmosphere</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13655" rel="nofollow">http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13655</a></p>
<p>I consider the information on the link as scientific, if you have a problem with their assessment of the upper atmosphere then take the matter to them.<br />
I only indicated that many years ago I had thoughts in line with their research.</p>
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		<title>By: podrock</title>
		<link>https://habitablezone.com/2016/12/11/hot-hydrogen/#comment-37792</link>
		<dc:creator>podrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 01:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moved to Flame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moved to Flame</p>
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